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Subject: [Leica] To change the subject entirely....
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sat Sep 25 19:25:50 2004

A few new neonatal shots....
The first is on my home page - 18 month-old 'big brother' being shown
his new sibs for the first time...
the others are at the end of the Born At Risk gallery - the last five I
think....

www.a-day-in-our-life.com



-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Slobodan Dimitrov
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 11:01 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked 


Yep, sure was! Communism brought on all sorts of depravities. Whenever I
see Dr. Strangelove, I always think of Henry Luce, when the scenes with
Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper come up. S. Dimitrov


> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:21:07 -0400
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked
> 
> Yes. Am I wrong in thinking that that is an image of two East German 
> soldiers, hands linked, jumping the barbed wire into West Germany - as

> opposed to something having to do with supposed homosexuality? LIFE 
> was never a photo gallery - it was about stories. And yes, it was 
> about stories about the "American way of life," and yes, Luce was a 
> dedicated anti-communist cold warrior.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> Of Slobodan Dimitrov
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:22 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked
> 
> 
> And, needless to say, the reason d'?tre for LIFE, as an instrument of 
> the Cold War, was the portrayal, or the selling, of a way of life. One

> of my favorites of LIFE's mistruths came from Arnold Newman. During a 
> lecture/presentation he spoke about the famous Igor Stravinsky image 
> at the piano. It was assigned by  LIFE, but not used for the week it 
> was done for. Apparently it got booted for another image, two East 
> German soldiers holding hands, while on guard duty at the Berlin Wall.

> Need I say more! S. Dimitrov
> 
> 
> 
>> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 19:23:46 -0400
>> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked
>> 
>> What Smith did was, by today's standards, inexcusable. BUT - he was 
>> not operating under today's standards: he was working in an era in 
>> which standards were much different. Look through a pile of old 
>> LIFE's
> 
>> and you will quickly see that the 'golden days' of PJ were days of 
>> the
> 
>> set up shot....
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Dan C
>> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 4:41 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Shakleton Photos Faked
>> 
>> 
>> And even in more recent times, W. Eugene Smith was known to alter 
>> some
> 
>> of
>> his photos for artistic sense.   And many of his photo essay's were
>> setups.
>> But the bottom line was that he was not depicting a lie.  His photos 
>> showed Doctor Schweitzer doing what he actually did in real life, 
>> Smith just wanted the photos to look a bit better.
>> 
>> -dan c.
>> 
>> At 02:20 PM 22-08-04 -0400, Emanuel Lowi wrote:
>>> Remember too that there was a tradition of photo
>>> humbuggery established before the days of yellow journalism. There 
>>> were pictures haunted with ghosts & people posed with props or 
>>> dressed up in strangers clothes, for effect.
>>> 
>>> Exposure times were long and the gear cumbersome --
>>> none of this zippy whiz-bang digital ease, eh ;-)
>>> 
>>> So they made sure the picture looked "right," even
>>> though it was "wrong." Plus ?a change...
>>> 
>>> Emanuel Lowi
>>> Montreal
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Replies: Reply from phong at doan-ltd.com (Phong) ([Leica] To change the subject entirely....)
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