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Subject: [Leica] Flat lighting and perverts
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sat Sep 25 19:26:03 2004

You do NOT want to know. :-) 

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Greg Locke
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 4:05 PM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Flat lighting and perverts


Indeed, BD  ... If that was what is was trying to do :^)  

There is certainly a strong artistic statement to be made by making
these pictures against the backdrop of everyday suburban Mundania
(apologies to Piers Anthony) ...but he didn't do that either.

A juxtaposition of these two seemly different worlds would be great.

What really goes on in Suburbia behind those faux-Edwardian doors at the
end of glossy black driveways and manicured topiary? 

Greg Locke
St. John's, Newfoundland
http://blog.greglocke.com

--TRINITY Photographic Workshops--
     September 3 -5, 2004
  at The Artisan Inn, Trinity
www.straylight.ca/trinityworkshop 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+locke=straylight.ca@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+locke=straylight.ca@leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of B. D. Colen
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 5:23 PM
> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Flat lighting and perverts
> 
> I'd suggest that the thing that makes these photos both
> interesting and disturbing, is the non-lighting lighting. It 
> gives them a very matter-of-fact, straight-ahead look that is 
> very weird given the subject matter. To me, starting to add 
> theatrical/fashion/arty lighting will produce very 
> run-of-the-mill soft-porn artsy/fartsy bondage photos. And 
> these are way beyond that.
> 
> B. D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On
> Behalf Of Greg Locke
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:44 PM
> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Flat lighting and perverts
> 
> 
> OK ...now we are talking about stage craft and theatrical lighting.
> 
> 1/ more directional
> 2/more contrasty (harsh)
> 
> 
> Ditch the even balance lighting.(forget softboxes)
> 
> With the suspended subject try one light directly from above
> 
> The fire shot was ruined by the back light.
> Use the fire light supplemented with some orange gelled to
> "boost" from the same direction of from beneath.
> 
> ...but beyond the lighting thing the problem (as pointed out
> by others) is that there is no "umph". It looks static. The 
> subjects are working to hard to co-operate... No tension or drama.
> 
> It needs to "look" less contrived and set up.
> 
> Go back to your earlier goth girls and look at the more harsh
> light you were using. Yeah, that's a studio shot too but for 
> a brief second it causes you to pause in doubt.
> 
> Why? The lighting looks uncontrolled and the models are not
> "trying to hard".
> 
> If you can switch one of you lights to half power, try tha
> and throw a colour gel on it. Go for shallower DOF to cut 
> down on the form distractions.
> 
> ...AND MORE SHADOWS!!
> 
> ...comprende vous?
> 
> 
> Greg Locke
> St. John's, Newfoundland
> http://blog.greglocke.com
> 
> --TRINITY Photographic Workshops--
>      September 3 -5, 2004
>   at The Artisan Inn, Trinity www.straylight.ca/trinityworkshop
> 
> 
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