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Subject: [Leica] Re: was Leni Oh gawd in heaven, now old photos
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sat Sep 25 19:26:07 2004

True, Bill...But I have lost enough negatives over the years to have
little faith in the longevity of any storage media....;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Bill O'Connell
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:11 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: was Leni Oh gawd in heaven, now old photos


B.D.
  Agree that transfer will be available and required to keep current,
spent most of my years in the fine field of data processing (forget the
current yuppie term for the field now), so I have seen the changes, and
they happen quicker and quicker, which was sort of one of my points.
Still, when your CD or DVD, or whatever comes next, has a hiccup, won't
be near as easy to dodge and burn when you can't read the file, nor can
you tape or glue your DVD that you cracked back together :-> I embrace
the new technology but do miss the ease and simplicity of the 'good old
days' Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+woc2=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+woc2=earthlink.net@leica-users.org]On Behalf Of B.
D. Colen
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:54 AM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: was Leni Oh gawd in heaven, now old photos


There's no question, Bill, that changing technology will require that
from time to time we copy our digital files from one form of storage to
another. If we make sure we don't wait until the transfer is no longer
possible, the problem you suggest is eliminated. I realize that current
storage media aren't foolproof - but either were previous media. After
all, all someone had to do was drop those glass plates once, and they
wouldn't be around to be printed. ;-)

B. D.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Bill O'Connell
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:48 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: was Leni Oh gawd in heaven, now old photos


:->

I almost hate to bring this up because it involves photography but, last
night my bro-in-law showed me some prints he made last week.  Some years
ago I came across some 4x5 glass plates from the late 1800s and we put
them aside thinking 'some day' we would do 'something' with them.  Well
some 15 or 20 years later, long after I had forgotten about them,
someday came.  I was amazed at the quality of the contact prints after
over 100 years. Amazing.  No, don't know what kind of camera or lens,
but am comfortable that it was not a M7 with a NOCT lens.... Last
weekend he and his wife went to Delaware where the photos were taken and
to no one's surprise many of the buildings are gone but the park areas
are still there.  One of the museums is interested in getting them for
their historic archives, which sounds about right to us. Got us to
thinking what our digital thinks will be like in 100 years.  The plates
were easy to put in the Bessler and produce prints, but will our PC/MAC
of the future allow us to slip in the CD or DVD from 2004 with the same
ease?  Think of the things stored on 8" or 5" floppies, even 3" floppies
are now going away.  Think it is time to go find a film recorder, one of
the PC to film devices that seem to be going away as well. Bill


-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+woc2=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+woc2=earthlink.net@leica-users.org]On Behalf Of
Emanuel Lowi
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:18 AM
To: lug@leica-users.org
Subject: [Leica] Re: Leni Oh gawd in heaven


I really enjoyed this latest Leni thread. This person
is clearly an important figure in the history of
photography and cinema and her work remains
influential in much the same way HC-B's is.

The thread was good while it inspired me to go read a
lot more about her.  Until a bunch of pushy jerks with
puny d**ks started getting nasty with each other for
no good reason except for their complexes over their
puny... oh, you know what I'm saying.

It is also deliciously ironic that we must turn to a
set of s&m bondage photos as an antidote to this Nazi
stuff. Thank you, Kyle. Timing is everything, they
say.

Doug, don't you have any pictures you can post now
showing little birdies doing unnatural things with the
bees? Pretty please?

Emanuel Lowi
Montreal



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