Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/25

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Subject: [Leica] A Stroll Around the Mobius Strip
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sat Sep 25 19:26:09 2004

First off, Marc - my "intrusion into this thread?" Are we back to your
thinking this is "your" list? I was always under the impression that the
LUG was a place where anyone could comment on any subject.

Second, what in God's name does the fact that the "fellow in question is
making a solid living and production and item photography" have to do
with anything? It certainly has nothing to do with the question posed,
which is what shooting "nothing by Zeiss glass" as to do with making one
an accurate, fair, reporter of anything?

Three, I believe that couples in which both husband and wife work and
the wife contributes the larger share of the family's economic pie might
find your comment about your not having to "sponge" off his wife more
than a bit insulting - and more than a bit anachronistic.

Four, we all know Bob Shell is your client. But what I think most of us
would have quite a hard time figuring out is why you'd feel compelled to
remind us of that fact - given that there hasn't been any discussion
here of his, uh 'troubles,' for perhaps a year. Surely you aren't
suggesting that Bob Shell is in the same category as Robert Capa? ;-)

Have a nice weekend -

B. D.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Marc James Small
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:09 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Cc: qwhozeiss@aol.com
Subject: RE: [Leica] A Stroll Around the Mobius Strip


At 09:52 AM 8/27/04 -0400, B. D. Colen wrote:
>Oh, well if he shoots nothing but Zeiss glass and is a friend of yours 
>Marc, then everything he writes must be fair and balanced, and 100 
>percent accurate.
>
>By the way, you might be interested to know that professional 
>photographers are constantly seeking out the criticism of other 
>professional photographers not because they want their faces ripped 
>off, as you so charmingly put it, but because they know that they can 
>be the worst judges of their own work. ;-)

Well, BD, I do appreciate your intrusion into this tread.  The fellow in
question is making a solid living at production and item photography and
does not have to sponge off his wife's rather lucrative pastry shop.

In other words, the critics he responds to are the folks who pay his tab
and a couple of other greats (Mike is close friends with, for instance,
Ernst Wildi as he was with the late Sal Di Maco and is a noted scholar
of Capa's work.)

And, BD, don't you be saying anything bad about another of my clients,
Bob Shell.  Be nice!

Marc

msmall@infionline.net  FAX:  +540/343-7315
Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!



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