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Subject: [Leica] Car Prices
From: rhaightjr at yahoo.com (Bob Haight)
Date: Mon Jun 6 11:55:01 2005

The manual transmission in mr RSX S type (a Honda
product) is very smooth, much more so than my former
BMW. Sad Mercedes doesn't offer a manual, but then who
needs all the repairs all my Mercedes had to have in
the past.
--- Henning Wulff <henningw@archiphoto.com> wrote:

> At 11:21 AM -0600 6/5/05, GREG LORENZO wrote:
> >Joseph Yao writes in part:
> >>
> >>  Current BMW automatics are excellent - very
> smooth, rapid shifting and has
> >>  insignificant effect on performance and economy.
>  The Sport and 
> >>Steptronicmodes
> >>  are handy when maximum control and acceleration
> are called for.
> >>
> >>  I also prefer manual transmission in general and
> together with Honda, BMW
> >>  offer one of the best manual transmissions.
> >>
> >
> >The manual transmission shifts much better and
> smoother in my Honda 
> >than my BMW. Of course the Honda doesn't have the
> torque and 
> >horsepower of the BMW, but the pricing reflects
> this.
> >
> >>  I present I have BMWs, and would like to have
> Mercedes again once they have
> >>  the quality issues sorted.  My last Mercedes was
> a lemon. I also find
> >>  Mercedes better suited for automatics, as if
> their cars were engineered from
> >>  scratch with auto in mind.
> >>
> >
> >I looked at Mercedes when I purchased my BMW. The
> quality of the 
> >cars Mercedes is building today is a word terrible
> (& owner 
> >satisfaction survey numbers back this up). This,
> along with the fact 
> >that you cannot purchase any new Mercedes you'd
> want to drive with a 
> >manual transmission with a manual transmission here
> in NA booted 
> >them from further consideration for me.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Greg
> 
> Mercedes now has some manual shift cars again in NA,
> but they also 
> have a new 7 speed auto which generally gives both
> better fuel 
> economy and performance than the manual in the same
> car but of course 
> still has the major failing of sometimes shifting
> when you don't want 
> to. With 7 speeds that doesn't matter as much
> anymore, though. 
> Another 'automatic' that is a distinct step up from
> almost anything 
> else is the VW groups' DSG transmission; in my
> opinion one of the 
> most significant designs for transmissions in
> decades.
> 
> There is no doubt in my mind that Mercedes quality
> is sinking and is 
> significantly lower than BMW quality at this point.
> My wife's Merceds 
> has had endless niggling problems with the
> electrical system - the 
> 'Prince of Darkness' has left England since the
> British car industry 
> died and settled in Sindelfingen.
> 
> Personally, I love manuals and generally get
> frustrated with 
> automatics in anything but stop and go traffic. I've
> had some poor 
> shifting manuals, including VW's, Mercedes and
> Nissans, and some 
> great ones like in the Mazda Miata and my BMW 325,
> but I wouldn't 
> have liked any, especially the latter, with
> automatics. My present 
> car only comes with a manual; fortunately a very
> good one.
> 
> -- 
>     *            Henning J. Wulff
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