Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/07/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]'Cause I am! ;-) B. D. Colen wrote: > Congratulations, Jim - And as to the photos - the exposures look great, but > why are the images so, uh, square? :-) > > > On 7/1/05 10:24 AM, "Jim Hemenway" <Jim@hemenway.com> wrote: > > >>Scott: >> >>You might take a look at a Rollei 6x6 SLR. The metering system is the >>best that I've ever used, that of my R8 is second best. >> >>Here's some using various lenses. The first two are not with the Rollei >>6008i but the rest are. >>http://www.hemenway.com/DarkDayAcadia/ >> >>And, here's just one roll from my 37 year old daughter's wedding three >>weeks ago, (91 F) http://www.hemenway.com/Wedding/ >>A small, very non-formal ceremony in the happy couple's home, attended >>by both crazy families. >> >>Jim >> >> >> >>Scott McLoughlin wrote: >> >> >>>Mark, >>> >>>Well, you "caught" me :-) Yes, I've been eye-balling a RZ67 kit. About >>>$1K in >>>EX or EX+ condition from KEH with the 110/2.8 longer normal lens. Then I'd >>>spring for the 210/4.5 APO or some other short tele, and that's pretty >>>much it. >>> >>>A good buddy of mine has a Mamiya 7II and the normal lens, and I don't >>>know >>>if this is the right beast for me. He had a hell of a time getting the >>>RF aligned >>>precisely, and more significantly, it's really not so good for head >>>shots. But he >>>also sings the praises of the 6x7 to me (he's coming from 4x5). >>> >>>Generally, I'm planning on shooting people with this camera on a tripod >>>and >>>some studio lights. >>> >>>In 6x6, I have also been eyeballing 'blad 501 stuff, and TLR's as well. >>>TLR's >>>would allow for hand holding and candid photography. Maybe a 'blad, with >>>it's >>>lower weight would be 1 do-all tripod/handheld combo system. >>> >>>I'll see. >>> >>>As for MF RF Texas Leicas, I'm pretty happy with my actual Leicas :-) >>> >>>Scott >>> >>>Mark Rabiner wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>Anyway, back to photography, I find there are so many factors that >>>>>make/break a photo more than the capture device. Film processing, >>>>>scanning technique, "digital darkroom" dodge/burn and sharpening >>>>>work, tripod use or handheld steadiness, printing, mood - and light! >>>>> >>>>>The real "competitor" to my Nikon DSLR is likely to be a 6x7 MF >>>>>system I've been researching and shopping around for. I want a big >>>>>scan of a big B&W negative. That's what I really want for Xmas. >>>>> >>>>>And until then, my 2 Leica M6TTL's and a few lenses get a good >>>>>90% of my shooting time anyway. Just fits in a small bag so nicely. >>>>> >>>>>Scott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Well Scott when you say "6x7 MF system " you should tell us if it's >>>>SLR or >>>>not. I do have this one theory on 6x7. On presentation on the light table >>>>being its only real advantage; not image quality in larger prints which >>>>would be the only reason I can think of of getting into it. >>>>A 6x7 blows away all 6x6's on the light table is what sums it up. My >>>>little >>>>theory that is. Not so on the gallery walls I'm sure. Large prints. >>>>But for some non logical reason a 6x7 seems twice as big as a 6x6 on a >>>>light >>>>table. And at the movement of reckoning............... >>>>When you're showing them you're "take". >>>>No ones looking at the 6x6's. It's like they are not even there. >>>>So it gets people like Anne Liebowitz and Herb Ritz putting their >>>>Hassies on >>>>the shelf for the interim.. >>>> >>>>Just keep in mind what a backless, lensless, prismlesss, Hasselblad >>>>500 CM >>>>or W looks like if you've ever seen one which most have probably not. >>>>Its a 500 gram 3 inch hollow cube with a mirror in it. Made in Sweden. >>>>Yours for a couple hundred bucks. >>>>Glass from Zeiss made in Germany as good as it gets of all shapes and >>>>sizes >>>>each one with it's own shutter for a couple hundred bucks a pop. Ok I >>>>slightly exaggerate.* >>>> >>>>A new Leica MP weights 100 grams more than this. (600 grams for a new >>>>Leica >>>>MP) >>>>Cost ten times more.. >>>>And gives you a neg 3.5 times smaller. >>>>This only occasionally freaks me out. >>>> >>>>What does get my attention is that to get that extra centimeter for 6x7 >>>>instead of 6x6 means to get a camera which is three times bigger and >>>>heaver. >>>>Especially if you're wanting that rotatable back of the RB or RZ. >>>>I'd go check that out; look up the Mamiya site for the 6x7 RZ like I just >>>>did with the Leica site and I weighted and measured my Blad on my own but >>>>I'll leave the RZ specs to the home viewer. >>>>Suffice to say 12 on a roll instead of 10 or 9. >>>>Squares (with their natural centers making for much easier composition >>>>and >>>>later flexibility) RULE!! >>>>http://rabinergroup.com/ImagePages/Biteme.html >>>> >>>> >>>>So hopefully you're thinking a Mamiya or Fuji Rangefinder. >>>>Texas Leicas. >>>>Wonder bread Leicas. Leicas with a whole lot of air pumped into them. >>>>Me I'd opt for one of the 645 jobs. >>>>Once you've gotten into Brownie Film you're over that "trying to pump >>>>light >>>>though a keyhole" effect you've got with 35mm which you don't with medium >>>>format. >>>>Medium format opens it up. Lets the light pour through. >>>>But to me it only needs 645 to do that. >>>>And that's 16 on a roll. A slice of pie for everybody. >>>>On the "A 16-member Pakistan cricket team "! >>>> >>>>Or a murder of 16 crows if that's how many are up there! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>* a couple of hundred bucks now for Hassy stuff used. >>>>But once the medium format digital backs hit that magic price point that >>>>gear will be in a Bear market again. >>>>Of course the idea is to sell high; buy low. >>>>Those who sold their Hassies for a song. Some extra memory cards I say >>>>"phooey" to. And your dog!!! >>>> >>>> >>>>Mark Rabiner >>>>Photography >>>>Portland Oregon >>>>http://rabinergroup.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Leica Users Group. >>>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >