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Subject: [Leica] New Jupiter arrives
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Thu Aug 25 05:47:43 2005

Daniel,
I just noticed you addressed another Phil.
Apologies for this.
Philippe


> From: Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@pandora.be>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:36:25 +0200
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] New Jupiter arrives
> 
> Thanks, Daniel.
> I've contacted Oleg Khalyavin and will send him my package shortly, just to
> be sure everything is everything CLA'd and the lenses are adapted to the
> body.
> Meanwhile, I did a black lacquering experiment on the frontplate of the 
> Kiev
> 4AM myself and although being a bit stressed before seeing the final 
> result,
> I'm pretty pleased with it. That's the fun with these camera's: they're so
> cheap that mistakes are easily forgotten.
> 
> 
>> From: Daniel Ridings <dlridings@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:30:50 +0200
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] New Jupiter arrives
>> 
>> On 8/24/05, pswango@att.net <pswango@att.net> wrote:
>>>  Hoping for the best, though I have been warned about uneven QC on this
>>> model.
>>>  We'll see.  Anyway, it only cost $20 plus shipping.
>> 
>> I hope it works out, Phil.
>> 
>> Quality control can be many things. My limited exerience (half-a-dozen
>> lenses) has been that the glass is just fine. But there are shims in
>> the lens body to gauge how far the lens is from the film plane
>> (Contax/Kiev's are not as solidly built as IIIc, IIIf, and later
>> Leicas, where the body is one piece). So the body thickness could vary
>> a bit. To counter this, the shims in the lenses could be thinner or
>> thicker accordiningly.
>> 
>> And ... as Dante Stella has demonstrated, the dimensions were never
>> the same as Leica, not even in the Zorkis and other screw-mounts, to
>> start with.
>> 
>> It appears that the factory just threw in a shim. Sometimes it will be
>> too thick, sometimes too thin. This will cause focus to fall a little
>> in front or a little in back of what you think you are focusing on.
>> 
>> The Jupiter-8's seem to be consistently wrong, if they are wrong, so
>> once you've figured it out, you just adjust the rangefinder image
>> slightly to push the lens further away or closer to the film plane.
>> It's usually just a tad.
>> 
>> But if it is off, it can result in slightly out of focus, soft images.
>> But, as I said, this doesn't necessarily mean anything is wrong with
>> the glass. Just the dimensions.
>> 
>> So take some close-up shots at wide-aperture to see where the focus is
>> falling. Mine is just ever so slightly off (slightly behind). So I
>> focus and then move the focus ring a slight tad closer. Actually, it's
>> so close that beyond 1 meter, I don't usually bother with it. At two
>> meters the little depth of field as f2.0 is enough to compensate.
>> 
>> Now Jupiters-12's .. that's another story. They can be pretty far off.
>> Don't ask me why.
>> 
>> Enjoy! I hope it works out for you.
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
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