Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/09/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Eric, might you not get better exposure (and perhaps flash) results by using the matrix metering setting (rectangle with dot - the middle setting) rather than the integral setting (open rectangle - on the right). Rick. On 11/09/2005, at 4:17 AM, Eric Korenman wrote: > Yup - I've been reading it on and off for weeks. Stopped at page 96 > or so. > Eric > > On 9/10/05, David W. Almy <dalmy@comcast.net> wrote: > >> >> Jim, >> >> If you haven't already, you should invest some time and read this >> thread, >> now 104 pages long! >> >> http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/267995/0 >> >> Exposure issues are discussed, in addition to many others related >> to using >> the DMR. >> >> David W. Almy >> Annapolis >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Eric Korenman" <faneuil@gmail.com> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> >> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 12:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Weird: DMR and TTL works! >> >> >> Ok more TTL and DMR: >> Did a portrait shoot this AM of a friend's little boy. DMR >> performed well >> but I need to learn more my new digital existence. >> 1) The DMR and R8 tends to blow out highlights in outdoor scenes when >> there >> a full range of direct sunshine and shadows. Found myself needing to >> compensate by -1 to -2 stops. Got to wean myself of negative >> film's wide >> latitude. >> 2) Flash in TTL mode worked nicely indoors where the flash was >> providing >> the majority of light. >> 3) Flash in TTL mode in the outdoors failed miserably. I think my >> camera >> got thrown into some weird mode - Everything was WAY overexposed. >> Even >> after >> I disconnected the flash I was getting insanely overexposed results. >> Turning >> the camera and DMR off, then back on seemed to fix it. >> 4) Camera 'crashed' once. Locked up. I had to remove and replace the >> battery. May have been the TTL thing. I am not sure. >> I have shot about 200 exposures since I got back home - without >> flash. The >> DMR seems to be working fine. More testing in a bright backyard >> makes me >> think that I need to underexpose most daylight scenes by -1 stops. >> In full >> daylight, and at zero exposure compensation the histograms show >> that the >> DMR >> does tend to blow out highlights. >> BTW- I am using the full metering setting (the open rectangle). >> Eric >> >> On 9/10/05, Eric Korenman <faneuil@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> There have been reports that TTL and the DMR simply does not work >>> and >>> switching the flash to TTL results in an error code in the R8 >>> display. >>> My R8 does not report an error code My R8 was just 'upgraded' by >>> Leica >>> >> NJ. >> >>> Perhaps the coding in the R8 rom has changed? >>> Not sure. >>> Eric >>> >>> On 9/10/05, FRANK DERNIE <frank.dernie@btinternet.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> If I remember correctly the reason why TTL hasn't >>>> worked on digital cameras in the past is that the >>>> reflectivity of the surface of the low pass filter is >>>> very different from film, presumably varying in some >>>> non linear way that nobody has so far been able to >>>> adequately compensate for. Maybe now, without the low >>>> pass filter, the sensor surface is more like film or >>>> maybe, in the test pix in question, the error is >>>> negligible and under some other conditions the >>>> incorrect exposure may result. >>>> Frank >>>> >>>> --- Rick Dykstra < rdcb37@dodo.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Very interesting Eric. Lack off TTL flash control >>>>> with the DMR has >>>>> been a problem to my mind. >>>>> >>>>> I hope you can try it with longish lens on a subject >>>>> that will really >>>>> test the TTL. >>>>> >>>>> Rick. >>>>> >>>>> On 10/09/2005, at 1:03 PM, Jim Hemenway wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Your "buyer's remorse" seems to be fading away. >>>>>> >>>>>> It took me much longer when I bought my house. :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric Korenman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> As has been reported, I just assumed my DMR/R8 >>>>>>> >>>>> would not work in >>>>> >>>>>>> TTL flash mode. >>>>>>> I was testing out my Metz 32mz-3 with my DMR this >>>>>>> >>>>> evening (using >>>>> >>>>>>> SCA 2052 adapter). >>>>>>> I have a portrait session tomorrow and I thought >>>>>>> >>>>> I do some shots >>>>> >>>>>>> with fill flash in "A" mode. >>>>>>> I flip the flash into TTL to see what error code >>>>>>> >>>>> I would get.. >>>>> >>>>>>> And I got none! >>>>>>> Did some test shots (at night, indoors) and the >>>>>>> >>>>> TTL feature >>>>> >>>>>>> appears to work just fine. >>>>>>> Am I nuts? Am I missing something thing? >>>>>>> Adjusting the + / - dippy switches to effects >>>>>>> >>>>> exposure appropriately. >>>>> >>>>>>> I covered the flash's "eye" to see if I was in >>>>>>> >>>>> some odd "A" mode >>>>> >>>>>>> and the setup still worked. >>>>>>> The flash seems to be truly in TTL mode. >>>>>>> I will try it in AM daylight and report back. >>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>>> >>>>> for more information >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>> >>>>> for more information >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for >>>>> more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >