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Subject: [Leica] New Apple software, Aperture, now computers long and OT
From: cochranpr at mac.com (David Cochran)
Date: Sat Oct 22 07:16:43 2005
References: <BF7F8D45.9F46%lists@heninger.org>

Hi Wade.
I used to get into this battles with a fellow worker who was PC and I 
was Mac.

In the end I told him, unless you hold stock on Microsoft or I hold 
stock on Apple, these two companies are just shafting us anyway. They 
profit from our computer battles.


the thing ended right there.

peace

D.
On Oct 22, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Wade Heninger wrote:

>
>
>
> On 10/22/05 3:28 AM, "Frank Dernie" <Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> This was my first experience of the PC world which has continued to
>> disappoint me ever since. We use PCs at work and their (deliberate?)
>> inability to be compatible is annoying. I have a Mac at home and can
>> read any file from a PC I have tried so far - not so in reverse.
>> We are indeed in a situation where we are largely stuck with PCs.
>> This is not because they are good - they aren't particularly - but
>> because they are dominant and have managed to engineer (the best bit
>> of engineering they have done) a near monopoly. For most people PC is
>> now synonymous with computer. Most are unaware of the alternatives.
>> The main thing Microsoft have brought to computing is the lowering of
>> peoples expectations of what computer software can do.
>
> I used to think this when I was an apple-fanatic.  I worked there and
> lived/breathed it.
>
> Then I got sick of the political crap at Apple and left.  On leaving I
> decided I couldn't be ignorant of windows any longer, so I picked it 
> up.
> Windows 98 sucked.  I hated it, crash crash crash.  Just like Mac OS 
> 9.  I
> continued to work mostly on my macs.
>
> Then 2000/XP came out and things changed.  Things mostly just worked.  
> I got
> the benefits of an open platform and I had stability while X was so 
> immature
> and broken it was funny.
>
> Fast forward: There is little difference between mac/pc anymore in 
> terms of
> reliability or compatibility.  I've had about the same luck with both
> platforms.  All those horror stories I'd heard about driver issues and 
> DLL
> issues have failed to materialize - there is no deliberate attempt to 
> be
> compatible.  Yes, there is better design on the mac side sometimes.  
> Yes,
> sometimes hardware/software can be better integrated.  But there are 
> pros to
> windows too.  More choice, cheaper, faster (try a G4 laptop against a
> current PC laptop doing Photoshop processing).
>
> Computers in general are now where near perfect.  They are just 
> imperfect
> tools that work most of the time and give us headaches periodically 
> because
> they were made my other people.
>
> They are just tools.  I carry both.  I have a PB G4 and a Thinkpad.  I 
> shrug
> and use both, ignoring the few gotchas and just getting the work done.
>
> Microsoft and Apple are companies that do dumb things.  Its no 
> conspiracy,
> its just business.
>
>
>
>
>
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