Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/11/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mark, there is also an adjustment that as to be made on the camera plates and tensions on the magazines to be able to shoot the thiner black & white. peace David On Nov 5, 2005, at 9:19 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > I may be more inspired by Cinematogs than Photogs. > And should have gone that route but not having the raw guts. > I understand that many of the modern major black and white movies are > shot > in color neg. because of processing availabilities. > Which introduces danger of the thing just being printed in color as > they > start running out of money and acquiesce as they realize that the > "foreign" > market has zero tolerance for black and white. They will get no foreign > market sales. I hear. > And it helps out I guess for scenes like in "Schindler's List" with the > Warsaw Ghetto shot with the super long tele of the little girl running > around in a red dress with everything and everybody else in the whole > film > in black and white. > One of the great shots certainly in the history of Cinema. > > Also "Icicle Thief" (Ladri di saponette) (A takeoff on the classic > "Bicycle > Thief") "Icicle Thief" being remarkable film in which everything is > black > and white except Heidi Komarek (a supermodel in real life) who is in > color. > And she would have stood out plenty if left in black and white as she > was > two heads taller than everybody else. > And real blond. > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097702/ > > I also understand then when Barnack and maybe a few others right > before him > started with the idea of movie film for stills they went with a "double > frame" format calling it that. The 36x24mm or close to it format. > The single frame format they was all used from before being 24x18. > I still have some WESS paper slide mounts with that delineation - > demarcation. > But now we call this the diminutive "half frame". > > The idea of course being that single frame for stills (now called half > frame) would be pushing the whole thing a bit in the printing. > They'd be having a happy time doing wallets until they got bored with > it and > went back to larger formats. > > Now everybody's pretty much shooting with the original single frame for > movie format only they're calling APS-C it or something like that. > > "The use of the term "APS-C" is perhaps unfortunate for a format some > are > hoping will stay around. It's derived from the similar frame size of > the > late, but not lamented, APS film format (APS "Classic" format was 23.4 > x > 16.7 mm) . We all know what a success that was. Smaller, lighter > cameras > were promised - but not delivered, and image quality, though fine for > small > prints, couldn't match 35mm. Image quality may have been "good enough" > for > the vast majority of users (who rarely make a print larger than 5x7), > but > that didn't really help!" > http://www.photo.net/oped/bobatkins/full_frame.html > > I love The lenses designed for this smaller image circle are sure > cuter and > niftier and my cry for years on the LUG has been: > BRING BACK HALF FRAME!!!! > I want to shoot this size ON FILM!!! > As with tab grain Academy award film technology our prints can > certainly > stand it. I'm fond of verticals (portrait mode). Heck I shoot my > landscape > in Portrait mode!:) > And we can shoot all day with one roll of film! > So who needs digital!!? > > > > Mark Rabiner > Photography > Portland Oregon > http://rabinergroup.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information