Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/12/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]No problem Doug I kinda collect the darned things myself. My last score was a Contarex Professional with just enough paint loss on the sleeve to make it a user. I intend to get a lot of miles out of it! Javier >From: Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@gmx.de> >Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >Subject: [Leica] CL questions! Not for sale >Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 01:17:02 +0100 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from server1.waverley.reid.org ([192.147.236.5]) by >bay0-mc1-f7.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, 24 >Dec 2005 16:18:01 -0800 >Received: from server1.waverley.reid.org (localhost.waverley.reid.org >[127.0.0.1])by server1.waverley.reid.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id >jBP0HAZK038294for <summarex@hotmail.com>; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:17:51 -0800 >(PST)(envelope-from lug-bounces+summarex=hotmail.com@leica-users.org) >Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.21])by >server1.waverley.reid.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with SMTP idjBP0H7Wm038290for ><lug@leica-users.org>; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:17:08 -0800 (PST)(envelope-from >douglas.sharp@gmx.de) >Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Dec 2005 00:17:05 -0000 >Received: from p5482F024.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO >[192.168.2.102])[84.130.240.36]by mail.gmx.net (mp021) with SMTP; 25 Dec >2005 01:17:05 +0100 >X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Z3TmmkSEdPtfpLB7P/ybN8= >X-Authenticated: #23253191 >User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) >X-Accept-Language: en-us, en >References: <BAY103-F2655AFB29D2F5A1081C9ABC7350@phx.gbl> >X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 >X-BeenThere: lug@leica-users.org >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: list >List-Id: Leica Users Group <lug.leica-users.org> >List-Unsubscribe: ><http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>,<mailto:lug-request@leica-users.org?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <http://leica-users.org/pipermail/lug> >List-Help: <mailto:lug-request@leica-users.org?subject=help> >List-Subscribe: ><http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>,<mailto:lug-request@leica-users.org?subject=subscribe> >Errors-To: lug-bounces+summarex=hotmail.com@leica-users.org >Return-Path: lug-bounces+summarex=hotmail.com@leica-users.org >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2005 00:18:02.0380 (UTC) >FILETIME=[AB2B14C0:01C608E8] > >Sorry Javier >not selling. I use AND collect.- silly criteria for collecting too - I >always try to get one of the last 10 built.Over the last 30 years or so of >collecting I managed it with a Black SL and SL2, SL2 Mot, SL2 50Jahre, R7 >Partner Aktion and an R5 (which is beyond the number of the last one >built). I also had an M2 with an M1 number (not converted) but I swapped it >recently for one of the last Chrome SL bodies and 3 lenses.every now and >again they get taken out for a walk to keep them fresh. >Douglas > >Javier Perez wrote: > >>That Luigi fellow sells a CL case on ebay and advertises for its ability >>to hang the camera properly! >>If you still have it, how much would you like for that old CL btw:? >>Javier >> >>>From: Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@gmx.de> >>>Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>>To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Dumbassed CL questions! >>>Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 00:26:35 +0100 >>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>Received: from server1.waverley.reid.org ([192.147.236.5]) by >>>bay0-mc4-f6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sat, >>>24 Dec 2005 15:27:18 -0800 >>>Received: from server1.waverley.reid.org (localhost.waverley.reid.org >>>[127.0.0.1])by server1.waverley.reid.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id >>>jBONQiZJ033067for <summarex@hotmail.com>; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:27:08 -0800 >>>(PST)(envelope-from lug-bounces+summarex=hotmail.com@leica-users.org) >>>Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.21])by >>>server1.waverley.reid.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with SMTP idjBONQgWm033062for >>><lug@leica-users.org>; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:26:42 -0800 >>>(PST)(envelope-from douglas.sharp@gmx.de) >>>Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Dec 2005 23:26:40 -0000 >>>Received: from p5482F024.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO >>>[192.168.2.101])[84.130.240.36]by mail.gmx.net (mp037) with SMTP; 25 Dec >>>2005 00:26:40 +0100 >>>X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Z3TmmkSEdPtfpLB7P/ybN8= >>>X-Authenticated: #23253191 >>>User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) >>>X-Accept-Language: en-us, en >>>References: <BAY103-F2C0C94F4A254F1D08C36AC7320@phx.gbl> >>>X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 >>>X-BeenThere: lug@leica-users.org >>>X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >>>Precedence: list >>>List-Id: Leica Users Group <lug.leica-users.org> >>>List-Unsubscribe: >>><http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>,<mailto:lug-request@leica-users.org?subject=unsubscribe> >>> >>>List-Archive: <http://leica-users.org/pipermail/lug> >>>List-Help: <mailto:lug-request@leica-users.org?subject=help> >>>List-Subscribe: >>><http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>,<mailto:lug-request@leica-users.org?subject=subscribe> >>> >>>Errors-To: lug-bounces+summarex=hotmail.com@leica-users.org >>>Return-Path: lug-bounces+summarex=hotmail.com@leica-users.org >>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2005 23:27:19.0163 (UTC) >>>FILETIME=[954504B0:01C608E1] >>> >>>Yes Javier, >>>Glad it helped. >>>I think the only thing that really worked was the battery check needle >>>line-up, After I got a decent Mimolta CLE my CL tended to stay on the >>>shelf, Why on earth didn't Leica build it. >>>I always hated the strap lugs on the CL too, a silly stiff plastic strap, >>>the camera just isn't heavy enough to hang properly. But, without the >>>strap, it does feel like a lovely real Leica after all >>>Douglas >>> >>>Javier Perez wrote: >>> >>>>Thanks a million Doug. >>>>That solves the battery check issue. I'm starting to think they may not >>>>have had exact >>>>shutter/ASA settings with respect to needle position! Scarey to think >>>>that they couldn't hold it together. >>>>Javier >>>> >>>>>From: Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@gmx.de> >>>>>Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>>>>To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>>>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Dumbassed CL questions! >>>>>Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 00:02:30 +0100 >>>>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>>Received: from server1.waverley.reid.org ([192.147.236.5]) by >>>>>bay0-mc4-f15.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); >>>>>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:02:59 -0800 >>>>>Received: from server1.waverley.reid.org (localhost.waverley.reid.org >>>>>[127.0.0.1])by server1.waverley.reid.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP >>>>>id jBON2dZK027590for <summarex@hotmail.com>; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:02:49 >>>>>-0800 (PST)(envelope-from >>>>>lug-bounces+summarex=hotmail.com@leica-users.org) >>>>>Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.21])by >>>>>server1.waverley.reid.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with SMTP >>>>>idjBON2aWm027586for <lug@leica-users.org>; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:02:37 >>>>>-0800 (PST)(envelope-from douglas.sharp@gmx.de) >>>>>Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Dec 2005 23:02:34 -0000 >>>>>Received: from p5482F024.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO >>>>>[192.168.2.101])[84.130.240.36]by mail.gmx.net (mp037) with SMTP; 25 >>>>>Dec 2005 00:02:34 +0100 >>>>>X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Z3TmmkSEdPtfpLB7P/ybN8= >>>>>X-Authenticated: #23253191 >>>>>User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) >>>>>X-Accept-Language: en-us, en >>>>>References: <BAY103-F4027B4F791DD314C828DA9C7320@phx.gbl> >>>>>X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 >>>>>X-BeenThere: lug@leica-users.org >>>>>X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >>>>>Precedence: list >>>>>List-Id: Leica Users Group <lug.leica-users.org> >>>>>List-Unsubscribe: >>>>><http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>,<mailto:lug-request@leica-users.org?subject=unsubscribe> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>List-Archive: <http://leica-users.org/pipermail/lug> >>>>>List-Help: <mailto:lug-request@leica-users.org?subject=help> >>>>>List-Subscribe: >>>>><http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>,<mailto:lug-request@leica-users.org?subject=subscribe> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Errors-To: lug-bounces+summarex=hotmail.com@leica-users.org >>>>>Return-Path: lug-bounces+summarex=hotmail.com@leica-users.org >>>>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2005 23:02:59.0688 (UTC) >>>>>FILETIME=[2F5ACE80:01C608DE] >>>>> >>>>>Hi Javier, >>>>>Merry wjhatecveer you're celebrating, >>>>>I think David Young has all the Leica manuals (including the CL) on his >>>>>site, I could have sent you a scan of mine but, unfortunately it's in >>>>>German. >>>>>Take a look at >>>>> >>>>>http://www.horizon.bc.ca/~dnr/_private/clbook/cl-index.htm >>>>> >>>>>I think you may find what you need. >>>>>Hope this helps >>>>>Douglas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Javier Perez wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hi Everyone >>>>>> >>>>>>As you've probably guessed I'vw had a run in with a CL on ebay. Paid >>>>>>too much thinking it was "clean" and it wasn't. Still, on camaritarian >>>>>>grounds it seems right to get the thing running again. I've already >>>>>>managed to un jam the shutter and resilver the prism (my way) but have >>>>>>a few questions about the meter. >>>>>> >>>>>>1) Without battery, at which speed and ASA does the meter needle >>>>>>reside in the center notch? >>>>>> I think it's 1/60 at 100 but I'm not sure. >>>>>> >>>>>>2) With a 1.35 battery at which combination of speed and ASA does the >>>>>>needle reside in the >>>>>> center notch. I think it's B or 1/2 at 100 but again I'm not sure >>>>>> >>>>>>3) and finally wht ios the nominal impedence for the meter proper. >>>>>>Mine had an open circuit and I had to bridge across ac ouple of >>>>>>windings. I get 3.9K but I'm not sure what it should be. >>>>>> >>>>>>Anyway, it's a fun little camera to work on but I can see how the >>>>>>linkages on the meter might get screwed up. Because the meter doesn't >>>>>>have the mechanical travel range, it bottoms out and a red flag >>>>>>appears. If you are overpowering or don't see the flag you can wind up >>>>>>wrecking the whole meter linkage. I had thought this narrow range >>>>>>metering scheme had died with the bullseye but I guess I was wrong. >>>>>>Still, it's a lovely little camera. I'd love to do an SPD/LED >>>>>>conversion on it! >>>>>> >>>>>>Anyway, Any info is very much appreciated. >>>>>>Merry Xmas to all! >>>>>>Javier >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>Leica Users Group. >>>>>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Leica Users Group. >>>>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Leica Users Group. >>>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information