Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/01/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]It sure is! I took it for granted that it was one of Mike Johnston's pictures to illustrate the lens he raves about in the article. Congratulations! Daniel On 1/3/06, Robert Meier <robertmeier@usjet.net> wrote: > > Daniel, > > The December issue of Black and White Photography also has one of my > pictures in it, on page 51. > > Bob > > > > > Philippe, > > > > Have you ever seen the magazine "Black and White Photography" from the > > UK? > > > > http://www.gmcpubs.com > > > > In the current, December 2005, issue there is an article about fine > > grain developers. They run through the merits and disadvantages of > > Microdol-X, Adox ADX, Calbe A49/Adox ATM49 (both are Agfa Atomal), > > Tetenal Ultrafin Plus and Mac LP-Cube XS. > > > > Most of what has been said about Microdol-X has already been said here. > > > > I don't know where the idea comes from that Tri-X is grainy. The 400TX > > is one of Kodak's most fine-grained films (TMX probably beats it out, > > but I doubt if much else does). Don't give up on the obvious before > > you dive into esoteric concoctions. Diluted D76 or Xtol will get you a > > long way. My print for round 4 of the print exchange was Tri-X and D76 > > 1:1. I don't think it is grainy. > > > > Best, > > Daniel > > > > > > On 1/3/06, Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote: > >> Thank you all for the input. > >> > >> But concluding after my initial question: > >> 1) Better don't combine Tri-X with Microdol X because the developer > >> counteracts on the speed and grain of the emulsion, thus on the > >> character of the film. > >> 2) But if you do, expose the Tri-X at ISO 200, dilute the Microdol 1 > >> to 3, and search the web (f.i. on http://www.digitaltruth.com/ > >> devchart.html) for correct development times since Kodak's times stink. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Op 3-jan-06, om 17:11 heeft Jeffery Smith het volgende geschreven: > >> > >> > I've seen a few respectable pictures taken with Tri-X and Rodinal. > >> > I've > >> > never ventured into that combo, but I may try it using a bit of > >> > overdevelopment like you suggest. It is next to impossible to get > >> > Rodinal > >> > down here for a decent price. I think I'll try Photographer's > >> > Formulary > >> > generic Rodinal. > >> > > >> > Jeffery Smith > >> > New Orleans, LA > >> > http://www.400tx.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org > >> > [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > >> > Dan > >> > States > >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 8:16 AM > >> > To: lug@leica-users.org > >> > Subject: RE: [Leica] tri-x and microdol-x > >> > > >> > > >> > Microdol x used at recommended times does reduce film speed, but > >> > when shot > >> > at 250 and developement is extended it produces proper negative > >> > density. I > >> > have found that much of what I used to call poor resolution was > >> > actually > >> > underdevelopement. Tri-x needs to be fully developed or the sharpness > >> > impression is reduced. The problem with high accutance developers > >> > like > >> > FX-39 and Ilfosol s is the granularity increase is very > >> > unattractive at > >> > greater than 5x enlargement. (FX-39 is really not even recomended > >> > for high > >> > speed film.) > >> > > >> > Considering that maximum resolution on hand held photography is > >> > rarely more > >> > than 60lp Tri-x is capable of all the sharpness you could need. The > >> > reduction of grain appearance is, in my opinion, more important to > >> > final > >> > image quality with that film. > >> > > >> > So far I have found Kodak's rec development times to be total > >> > crap. Nearly > >> > all thier films require 15-30% more developement time than their > >> > website > >> > states. > >> > > >> > In the end, you should try microdol, d76, xtol, DDX, rodinal and other > >> > developers. They are not expensive, and you will be able to find > >> > what works > >> > > >> > best for you...plus, it's fun! > >> > > >> > best wishes > >> > Dan > >> > > >> >> From: "Jeffery Smith" <jsmith342@cox.net> > >> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > >> >> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> > >> >> Subject: RE: [Leica] tri-x and microdol-x > >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 07:09:45 -0600 > >> >> > >> >> I found that the grain-dissolving action of Microdol-X left very > >> >> little > >> >> snap > >> >> in the images. It even made Panatomic-X look bad. My advice would > >> >> be....don't use. > >> >> > >> >> Jeffery Smith > >> >> New Orleans, LA > >> >> http://www.400tx.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org > >> >> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of > >> >> Philippe > >> >> Orlent > >> >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 3:40 PM > >> >> To: LUG Group > >> >> Subject: [Leica] tri-x and microdol-x > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Just bought both to see how they combine. > >> >> But having never worked with either: are there things that I should > >> >> know? Do's and don'ts? > >> >> Push or pull? > >> >> Dilute or not? > >> >> ... > >> >> I would be very grateful if the combined knowledge base of the LUG > >> >> would help me on this one. > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Leica Users Group. > >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Leica Users Group. > >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Leica Users Group. > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Leica Users Group. > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >