Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/01/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Fair enough. Keep in mind, however, that many of the DSLR's can be greatly reduced in size by sticking with the basic camera - not adding what for many are optional vertical release grips, with larger, heavier batteries. Most folks don't need the fps speed advantage conferred by some of the grip, nor do they really need the additional battery life. On 1/18/06 12:54 PM, "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor@comcast.net> wrote: > There's no question in my mind that "these over-sized, over-weight, > over-automated, computers that pass for cameras these days" take > incredible photos. They certainly do, and in many situations far > better than a film camera would. I just don't want to carry one and > it's accessories around. > > The future is digital. No question. I just am not ready to partake > yet - at least not at the Canon 20D, 30D, 5D level. > > B.D. Colen wrote: > >> I do have to laugh, Richard, reading your description of "these >> over-sized, >> over-weight, over-automated, computers that pass for cameras these days." >> :-) When I read that I am reminded of what everyone said about 35 mm >> cameras >> and film, and their quality, as late as the early 60s; the legions of >> newspaper and magazine editors who scoffed at the idea that "those toys" >> could produce good images. ;-) >> >> >> On 1/18/06 11:36 AM, "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> Right, but, at least for me, buying a first generation digital M >>> won't mean buying into an entirely new system and it will be a system >>> that I enjoy using. >>> >>> I seem to be unable to express adequately just how much I dislike >>> hauling around these over-sized, over-weight, over-automated, >>> computers that pass for cameras these days. >>> >>> >>>> But let's be honest here - when you get the M digital body you are >>>> stepping >>>> on precisely the same treadmill. By the time it comes out, it will >>>> already >>>> be last year's technology, if that. The question is whether that >>>> technology >>>> is good enough for you for the foreseeable future. And that >>>> brings us to the >>>> question of how real the "digital treadmill" really is. Does one need >>>> to >>>> continually trade up? I'd suggest again that the 20D produces terrific >>>> results, and unless one has a specific problem or need, the >>>> introduction >>>> of >>>> the 30D shouldn't cause 20D owners to lose sleep. Think about how much >>>> of >>>> this is really just the latest example of the "mine's bigger than >>>> yours" >>>> phenomenon. What this really reminds me of is the annual >>>> introduction of the >>>> new car models each fall in the 50s and 60s - God forbid the neighbor >>>> has >>>> tail fins bigger than yours. ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/17/06 8:53 PM, "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim Laurel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The digital treadmill marches on... Damn, I'm tired of it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Me, too. ...and it's why I'm still shooting film. I can wait this >>>>> out. We'll certainly have good digital bodies for our M lenses in a >>>>> few years. The digital M is beginning to look like a sure thing and >>>>> given the rumors, we may well have a Zeiss-Ikon digital and maybe >>>>> even another Epson digital to choose from. >>>>> >>>>> Besides, >>>>> >>>>> - I enjoy using my M7 and M3. >>>>> >>>>> - Competent DSLRs and lenses are all BIG. I hate carrying big >>>>> cameras and lenses around. >>>>> >>>>> - Film is easily processed and digitized. >>>>> >>>>> - No new camera is going to help improve my ability to see and >>>>> produce good prints, my primary interests at the moment. >>>>> >>>>> - $4,500 spent on a 5D and a couple of Canon lenses today (I almost >>>>> did this) is $4,500 less I'll have to spend on a digital M two years >>>>> from now. >>>>> >>>>> I just picked up a used 28mm Summicron. It'll make a great "36mm" >>>>> lens on my digital M. >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> >>>>> Dick >>>>> Boston MA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 17, 2006, at 8:59 AM, Richard S. Taylor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Some of you might be interested in this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rumours: Canon EOS 30D to be announced end of February? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.photoscala.com/node/view/1204 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a site my photo processor told me about last week and I've >>>>>>> just started to check into from time to time. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dick >>>>>>> Boston MA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >