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Subject: [Leica] given up: now spot metering
From: firkin at ncable.net.au (Alastair Firkin)
Date: Wed Feb 8 14:57:02 2006
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Its a matter of "knowing" what a cloud will do to the scene isn't it?

On 09/02/2006, at 9:03, bruce wrote:

> Hi Alistair,
>
> Some twenty plus years ago, I purchased a Pentax spotmeter, to 
> supplement the readings from my original Weston.
>
> Wherever I intend/ed to take photographs, I meter/ed the environment 
> ........... measured the skin tones (sometimes on myself), plus the 
> highs and the lows in the environs. I then fix the setting in function 
> of which area of the image I wish to be best exposed in relation to 
> the others.
>
> And thereafter, just watch (naked eye, mine) the changes in the light. 
> I find it easiest in the tropics ............... and worst in this 
> land, where the clouds are constantly changing the light--fall 
> ............. ugh!
>
> B.
>
> On 8-feb-2006, at 22:24, Alastair Firkin wrote:
>
>> G'day,
>> I have spent a long time trying to "learn" to estimate exposure, so 
>> that I could set the M's without bringing them up to my eye. Same 
>> goes for focus and those neat little tabs on the early Leica lenes (I 
>> love that). Its not too hard and as you say is aided by film 
>> latitude. Now I am going the opposite direction, and will soon be 
>> doing mainly spot metering and quick "zone" estimations. This is not 
>> good for a street grab, but great for other forms of photography. 
>> Hasselblad got all excited about it with the release of the 205TCC, 
>> and it has made sense to me. Now that I've been using it, I love it.
>>
>> Trick is AFAICS, to grab a reading from the highlights set it to a 
>> zone your film/sensor can tolerate by prior experience and in 
>> "general" let the image follow suit. If you need to be really fancy, 
>> check the lowlight as well and establish a range, adjusting contrast 
>> to suit, but I suppose that is what the histogram does for you in a 
>> graphical way. Checking histograms and re-exposing is slow however 
>> and is not going to suit the needs of the M user.
>>
>> On 08/02/2006, at 19:19, Scott McLoughlin wrote:
>>
>>> Probably like many others, I have my D70's little LCD screen more
>>> or less permanently set to the "display histogram" mode :-)
>>>
>>> I can't directly translate in my head a histogram into the visual 
>>> appearance
>>> of a photo, but I imagine I'll get there soon enough. For now, I 
>>> generally
>>> just shoot raw and try to "expose to the right" while avoiding blown
>>> highlights.  From there, should I have the motivation and energy, 
>>> alot can
>>> be tweaked during RAW conversion.
>>>
>>> Maybe if I were more careful, I'd use the D70's spot meter on the 
>>> highlights
>>> and adjust exposure from there, but I haven't spent the time to 
>>> master
>>> that technique yet.
>>>
>>> But you got to hand it to film where some crappy exposures can often
>>> be molded into nice photos in the darkroom. On this very list, I 
>>> believe, I've
>>> read that HCB himself - patron saint of we Leica users - guestimated 
>>> exposure
>>> often and relied on a tight relationship with a master printer.
>>>
>>> Now, that's not me. I use a nice metered M6TTL and have 2 Sekonic
>>> meters I'll sometimes use in incident mode "just in case" :-)
>>>
>>> Scott
>>
>>
>> Alastair
>>
>>
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