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Subject: [Leica] Bogus M2-R Auction
From: sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner)
Date: Mon Feb 20 19:27:15 2006
References: <2f372552f3542f.2f3542f2f37255@shaw.ca>

Greg, look at Luigi's site. He shows photos of three original M2 KS15-4
cameras in the correct serial number range, all in black paint. Far as I am 
concerned, cse closed. Except for the incorrect desciption and the M2R 
document intended to prove this is an M2R camera.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "GREG LORENZO" <gregj.lorenzo@shaw.ca>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Bogus M2-R Auction


> Seth Rosner writes:
>
>> Thanks Greg; there is another anomaly in their listings. The camera 
>> listed
>> immediately after the faux M2R is a "Leica-M Post Camera" with 35/2,8
>> Summaron lens. The Leica body behind the lens is an M3. I am not Jim 
>> Lager,
>> Gianni Rogliatti nor even our own Tom Abrahamssen. But I have seen a lot 
>> of
>> Leica post cameras. They have all had solid topplates, no 
>> range/viewfinder.
>> I have never seen an M3 "post camera" and am quite certain that such 
>> never
>> existed. Why would Leitz waste the money to put an expensive
>> range/viewfinder on a camera that would never use it. Very strange
>> stuff going on in that store.
>>
>
> Hi Seth,
>
> Per Jim Lager: KS-15-4 (aka Military M2-R and M2-S) Serial Number Range 
> 1163150-1163770 & 1164046-1164300.
>
> Also, not per Jim Lager, but from memory:
>
> Additionally, these US Military cameras were specially sealed, the 
> transport axle was different and a hidden wire runs inside the camera 
> along the edge of the back door.
>
> The back door in one submitted Ebay image was open. No specially sealant 
> beyond what my standard M2 has.
>
> The top plate has the standard M2 (not M2-R) script. A military KS-15-4 
> has no special markings on the top plate but this camera is not an 
> KS-15-4.
>
> I too am troubled by the 'sexed up' Ebay description. Can anyone that has 
> served in any military, anywhere, imagine that type of organization 'black 
> painting' a camera during war time?
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
>
>
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