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Subject: [Leica] enough with Olympus DSLR postings PLEASE
From: bquinn at sgi.com (Barney Quinn)
Date: Thu Mar 23 07:27:15 2006
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B.D.

I got the sent with snapper mail part. Did I miss something else? :-)

Barney


"B. D. Colen" wrote:

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> ...... Original Message .......
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:10:14 -0500 "Don Dory" <don.dory@gmail.com> wrote:
> "B.D.
> "I did not say that photography was in trouble, I said the business was in
> "trouble.  As people who know what a camera should be able to do leave the
> "business and are replaced on the retail side by some loser who may or may
> "not be able to run the register then the knowledge base will be what is
> "found on the net.  Have you read the other discussion groups?
> "
> "On the manufacturing side, we are seeing the large electronics firms move
> in
> "both because they would like to expand into a temporarily high margin
> "business and also it is a place to use spare manufacturing capacity.  
> These
> "big conglomerates understand cameras like IBM understands PC's, ot that's
> "right, they sold the business.
> "
> "Don
> "don.dory@gmail.com
> "
> "
> "On 3/22/06, B. D. Colen <bdcolen@comcast.net> wrote:
> ">
> "> Yup, the business is changing. And I would hazard a guess that more
> people
> "> today are actually carrying around cameras all the time than did a 
> decade
> "> ago. Some of those cameras are embedded in cell phones, but those people
> "> are thinking about images- and those cameras are getting better.
> ">
> "> Times change; economic configurations change; art forms change.
> ">
> "> By the way, most buggy whip manufacturers went out of business when cars
> "> came in. And most auto manufacturers are long gone as well. You may
> bemoan
> "> their loss, but more people are driving than ever before. Which may or
> may
> "> not be good.
> ">
> "> Bottom line? If you love film, use it. But all of this digital is
> "> destroying photography is pretty silly.
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> "> ...... Original Message .......
> "> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:00:40 -0500 "Don Dory" <don.dory@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> "> "B.D.,
> "> "I beg to differ.  On the manufacturing side we have lost Kyocera,
> Konica,
> "> "Minolta.  If sales don't pick up we will lose Olympus and NIkon within
> "> three
> "> "years: Olympus after a major sale and pirating Nikon's coop dollars
> "> managed
> "> "a whopping 11% market share in the U.S market.  If Nikon doesn't start
> "> "shipping huge quantities of D200's really soon they will be looking
> "> fondly
> "> "on the stepper business.  Kodak will probably be out of the camera
> "> business
> "> "in less time based on the amount of space they gave cameras at PMA.
> "> "
> "> "On the retail side, the small players are going away as in closed doors
> "> with
> "> "no one interested in the business.  For photography related purchases 
> we
> "> "will soon be at Wal-Mart, Ritz, B&H, the local big box electronics
> store,
> "> "and a few regional chains. K&S, Samy's, Bergen, and a few others will
> "> "survive at least for this generation.  Without a place to promote
> "> "photography, we will end up with camera phones as the standard
> equipment.
> "> "
> "> "Strong words, sure; but you were not talking to the folks in the photo
> "> "business in Florida.  An indication of how things are going is the
> "> serious
> "> "talk of folding PMA into CES.
> "> "
>
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