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Subject: [Leica] Real patriots don't take pictures
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Fri Mar 31 13:20:12 2006

Or, God forbid, H5N1 mutates to the point where it's spread from human to
human - do you want to be protected by the folks who told us afterwards that
no one could have predicted that a plane would be flown into the WTC, or
that Katrina would breach the levees?


On 3/31/06 2:33 PM, "Barney Quinn" <bquinn@sgi.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> BD,
> 
> I don't wish death, disaster, or tragedy on anyone. Not even people whom I
> don't
> like or disagree with. I particularly don't want to see any more disasters
> inflicted upon the USA. We've had more than enough trouble of late. But, 
> that
> said,
> given the response to Katrina and given what has (or hasn't) happened about
> New
> Orleans I hate to think what would happen if a Bhopal-like event happened
> here, God
> Forbid it ever would.
> 
> I was asking myself this morning what would happen if, again God Forbid, 
> Iraq
> was
> hit by a truly huge and destructive earthquake. I have no clue except to 
> say
> that I
> doubt that it would be pretty.
> 
> Barney
> 
> 
> 
> "B. D. Colen" wrote:
> 
>> Imagine a Bhopal-like event in, say, Chicago...
>> 
>> On 3/31/06 1:37 PM, "Barney Quinn" <bquinn@sgi.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> BD,
>>> 
>>> You're right, but it's a whole lot easier and cheaper to hassle innocent
>>> people
>>> taking a few happy snaps then it is to protect chemical plants, something
>>> which
>>> takes a lot of work, expense, concentration, and - gasp - might put you 
>>> in
>>> the
>>> position of having to tell a community or a business they can't do just
>>> exactly
>>> what they want to do.
>>> 
>>> Barney
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "B. D. Colen" wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well, actually, if I seriously needed photos of a particular place, and 
>>>> I
>>>> was aware of the way people are being hassled, I might well use a 4x5 
>>>> on a
>>>> tripod with a darkcloth, wearing a Tilly hat, Mephisto shoes, and a 
>>>> Domke
>>>> photo vest, with a Parker 51 in one pocket , a fifth of single malt in
>>>> another other, with a Leica IIIf hanging around my neck - because who 
>>>> would
>>>> think that a 'bad guy' would be so obvious? Of course I might well have 
>>>> a
>>>> digital camera of some sort inside the 4x5...:-)
>>>> 
>>>> Seriously, the whole thing is idiotic - if someone wants these sorts of
>>>> images, they're going to get them. Period. I'd like to see a fraction of
>>>> the
>>>> time and attention being wasted on making sure that none of us take 
>>>> photos
>>>> of some run down courthouse in East Buttbleep, or the Port Authority Bus
>>>> Terminal applied to securing chemical plants and ports. Until that's 
>>>> done,
>>>> we're screwed - pure and simple.
>>>> 
>>>> Back to working on my new website.
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/31/06 11:01 AM, "bruce" <bruce@ralgo.nl> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If that bothers you, Frank, imagine what they get-up-to from outer/
>>>>> inner space (satellites) ................ Google, but far more
>>>>> efficient + telephone listening etc. etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> B.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 31-mrt-2006, at 17:54, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I get hassled all the time with a 4x5 view camera.  Why would any self
>>>>>> respecting honest to goodness no-good-nik ever use a 4x5, on a
>>>>>> tripod, with
>>>>>> a dark cloth, taking 10 minutes to shoot 1 piece of film of a
>>>>>> sensitive
>>>>>> subject?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If I were a no-good-nik, I would use a digital camera from a moving
>>>>>> car to
>>>>>> minimize my exposure.  What is wrong with the official idiots
>>>>>> acting as our
>>>>>> protectors?  How many times I have been chased off shooting a
>>>>>> public place
>>>>>> with my 4x5, to watch some tourist go up and happy snap the same
>>>>>> image?  Why
>>>>>> is one more subversive looking than the other?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If taking pictures is not approved of, what do our elected
>>>>>> officials think
>>>>>> of the thousands to millions of pictures already taken of the
>>>>>> building?
>>>>>> Amateur pictures, professional pictures, printed pictures,
>>>>>> newspaper images,
>>>>>> even building plans.... they are all public already...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe it speaks to the relative brightness of our officials versus the
>>>>>> brightness of the bad guys.  I have yet to hear of a terrorist cell
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>> caught because they took a picture of anything.......
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>>> red735i@earthlink.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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> 
> 
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