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Subject: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph, and HCB -goldenmean
From: s.dimitrov at charter.net (Slobodan Dimitrov)
Date: Wed Apr 12 17:28:41 2006
References: <005901c65e80$e6172860$656c0e44@newukolbqveo9i>

I'm sorry that you're concerns were used by others to vent their own  
animus.
Keep shooting. You're doing well by it.

Slobodan Dimitrov
Studio G-8,
Angels Gate Cultural Center
http://sdimitrovphoto.com





On Apr 12, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

> I never said that he had a secret formula. I never really thought  
> much about
> his images until I watched his documentary and he said that he  
> relied very
> highly on geometry. After looking at his work again, I immediately  
> saw what
> he was talking about. I guess I get tired of posting something only  
> to have
> it mutated into an imbecilic statement that is then sent out as  
> something I
> said. When I mentioned using older, European films and some of my  
> older
> lenses, suddenly I'm quoted as saying that I can be just like Capa  
> or HCB by
> going to the camera store. When I mention that HCB's documentary
> demonstrates his use of geometry, something I hadn't noticed  
> before, I'm
> quoted as saying that if I use angles, I'll be just like HCB. I  
> don't mind
> taking heat when I say something imbecilic, but I'd prefer that it  
> come out
> of my mouth, not someone waiting to blindside me in front of a huge
> audience. Having to defend myself until a thread dies out is just  
> too much
> work these days. When I see something like yesterday's crap, my first
> impluse is to just say F**K Y*U, but there's nothing noble in that  
> response
> either.
>
> Jeffery Smith
> New Orleans, LA
> http://www.400tx.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of  
> B. D.
> Colen
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 6:51 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph, and  
> HCB
> -goldenmean
>
>
> What the hell, Jeffery - I'd suggest that I'm probably in the top -  
> I'll be
> really conservative - 5 percent of people on this list who have  
> attempted
> to start discussions about photography. Perhaps you'll recall 'why we
> photograph?' Hello?
> But yes, I do consider it pretty silly to look for the secret  
> formula in a
> artists work - although if you'l get one of those chill pills  
> Walt's always
> providing me, you may recall that I said I found your line drawing  
> quite
> intriguing. But no amount of line drawing or other art school/art  
> critic
> theorizing is going to produce the Henri-Bresson Code, and get us  
> all into
> the MOMA. :-)
> ___
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> ...... Original Message .......
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:48:30 -0400 Walt Johnson <walt@waltjohnson.com>
> wrote:
> "You are absolutely right.
> "
> "Walt
> "
> "Jeffery Smith wrote:
> "
> ">I apologize for yaking about art without being an art critic, and  
> I didn't
> ">imply that anyone who divided a frame into thirds etc. was a  
> little Henri.
> ">BD made it clear that he thought my initial observations about the
> ">documentary were laughable. I stand corrected. But your  
> condenscending
> ">sarcasm is over the edge, I think.
> ">
> ">Jeffery Smith
> ">New Orleans, LA
> ">http://www.400tx.com
> ">
> ">
> ">
> ">
> ">-----Original Message-----
> ">From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
> ">[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf  
> Of Walt
> ">Johnson
> ">Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:18 PM
> ">To: Leica Users Group
> ">Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who  
> photograph,and HCB
> ">-goldenmean "> "> ">I'm all for aesthetics but that has little or  
> nothing
> to do with
> ">"formulas". If it were as easy as dividing the frame up into 3rds  
> or 5
> ">ninths or whatever, then we could all be little Henris .     :-P
> ">
> ">Besides, it is better to let your work do the talking for  
> you.....Yaking
> ">about art is for art critics and dabblers, making it is for us Leica
> ">guys. (and girls) :-*
> ">
> ">Walt
> ">
> ">p.s I've never divided up your 9th ward photos into math formulas  
> but
> ">think they are very good anyway.
> ">
> ">Jeffery Smith wrote:
> ">
> ">
> ">
> ">>This is what happens when one tries to talk about photography on  
> the
> ">>LUG. Okay, let's talk gear! How about 'dem Olympus lenses!!! ">>
> ">>Jeffery Smith ">>New Orleans, LA ">>http://www.400tx.com ">>
> ">>-----Original Message-----
> ">>From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
> ">>[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> ">>Walt Johnson
> ">>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:52 PM
> ">>To: Leica Users Group
> ">>Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who  
> photograph,and HCB
> ">>-goldenmean
> ">>
> ">>
> ">>No. No, No..I'm  familiar with all the non sequiturs...Show me a
> ">>photograph.... >:o >:o >:o :-P One you've taken which debunks  
> Henri's
> ">>secrets.
> ">>
> ">>Jeffery Smith wrote:
> ">>
> ">>
> ">>
> ">>
>
>
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