[Leica] Professional Leica Users?

[grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)]

I don't buy that, hobbyists also use pro cameras, or cameras used by pros 
also.  Does that by his definition also make them toys?  In fact I would 
venture that hobbyists probably buy more pro cameras than pros do.  Seems a 
photo mag said that once. 

Gene

-------------- Original message from "Philip Forrest" 
<photo.forrest@earthlink.net>: -------------- 


> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the gentleman used the term "toy" 
> as 
> a hobbyist item, not a piece of gear that a pro photog would use for most 
> of 
> their livelihood. This has nothing to do with the durability of the 
> cameras, hardly. I took my M4 and M2 to Iraq and both performed flawlessly 
> when my Nikon digital wouldn't even turn on (above 115 degrees.) The 
> Leicas 
> are as durable as ever & nothing else can really compare besides an old 
> rugged film body such as a Nikon F2. The reasoning behind the discussion 
> here is that there's too much cost and time when shooting film. It's 
> mostly 
> relegated to the hobbyist and fine art shooters. 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org 
> [mailto:lug-bounces+photo.forrest=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> Of grduprey@mchsi.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:31 PM 
> To: Leica Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Professional Leica Users? 
> 
> I guess I wonder why you call it a toy. A toy implies it is something you 
> would give to a child or something that is not expected to last. The M 
> camera of today are every bit as rugged as those of years gone by, and 
> just 
> as usable. It may not have all the baubles and extras as say the Canon 1Ds 
> MkII, but it has all you need to do the job. Yes it is expensive, but so 
> is 
> the Canon, in fact several Canons fit into this price range, as well as at 
> least one Nikon. Do you consider them also toys? 
> 
> Gene 
> 
> -------------- Original message from bernardo feio 
> : -------------- 
> 
> 
> > I know that this doesn?t take us any were but don?t you think that it?s 
> > a 
> shame 
> > that M Leica gear is almost a toy and not a tool has it was supposed to 
> be? 
> > 
> > If Leica turns only to be an expensive toy I will be very sad! 
> > 
> > So photo professionals what is missing to M to make it a toll again? 
> > 
> > B regards from Portugal 
> > Bernardo feio 
> > 
> > 
> > Will von Dauster escreveu: While I've almost never 
> > used Ms exclusively, they used to be my 
> > cameras of choice for event coverage and on-site, in-context 
> > portraiture, as well as various other applications. I also miss them, 
> > and look forward to hearing how the M8 performs as shipped. 
> > 
> > Will von Dauster 
> > 
> > USDOC/NOAA 
> > 
> > On Sep 20, 2006, at 6:30 AM, Tina Manley wrote: 
> > 
> > > At 06:06 AM 9/20/2006, you wrote: 
> > >> Hi 
> > >> 
> > >> How many of us "leica users" are professional photographers (and 
> > >> live from taking pictures) use Leica M equipment for work? And 
> > >> from those that are professional and don't use M equipment how 
> > >> many will start using the M8? 
> > > 
> > > I'm a professional photographer who used to use M's exclusively but 
> > > I now use Canon's exclusively. I'm still looking forward to 
> > > getting the M8 so I can use all of those wonderful M lenses which 
> > > are gathering dust on my shelves. The Canon 1DMII is a monster to 
> > > carry around, especially with the 85/1.2 attached. The M8 with a 
> > > Noctilux will be much easier to carry. I'm just hoping that the 
> > > high ISO's will be as good as Canon's. 
> > > 
> > > Tina 
> > > 
> > > Tina Manley, ASMP, NPPA 
> > > http://www.tinamanley.com 
> > > 
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