Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks for clearing that up so eloquently, Mark ;-) By the way, that self portrait from you that Steve posted is an absolute gem, clever, clever content and composition. Even a useful reason to have an extra piece of flat glass in front of your lens. Cheers Hoppy ROTFLMAO -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner Sent: Saturday, 28 October 2006 00:59 To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] How much for a Nocti On 10/27/06 7:37 AM, "Walt Johnson" <walt@waltjohnson.com> typed: > Hoppy > > Caution, unprotected photography with a stranger can be dangerous. Slip > on a UV :-) > > Walt > > G Hopkinson wrote: > >> Henning and Mark, I really respect the opinions and experience of the pro >> shooters here and I know we've had a thread on this >> before. Probably like religion or politics no one will ever change anyone >> else's mind on this. > Believe me Hoppy you have no idea! UV wars have gone on long before recorded LUG history. And beyond! I think it was around 1998 or so during a certain excursion behind UV users lines into then uncharted Peloponnesian UV war territory that die hard UVa or UVb users conceded that IF when they open up a red dot box with a lens in it and there is a little instruction sheet (say with the first hand ground aspherical wide angle or with the current Noctilux) to NOT USE a UV or other even filter then maybe there were reasons to listen to this!!! The concaveness of the outer element of the first Aspherical wide angle made us think that there would be a a reflection issue between the outer element and the filter. Scared off a few people at least. UV filter sales took a dip. On the Noctilux it was such a large outer lens to air area with innovative optical design elsewhere that hard core UV filter people would make exceptions in that instance. But whatever the reason; we figured there was one. My thoughts on my last post on this by the way was not in my mind directed at specifically Erik's reasons and motives for this or that... But in general; a person who is told by a head Leica guy face to face to not use filter on a certain lens. As Erik is not on the LUG to my knowledge it's pointless and not so great to try to get into an imaginary dialog with him as his defenses and aggressives are just fig Newton's of our own imagination. And he could come up with better ones I'm sure. As I hung out with him a bit and the man can be eloquent. I did, by the way see on TV channel 13 New York a few nights ago Jim Natchwey (Noctiway is spelt it at first) in front of his exposed brick wall with his camera with a lens on it he was putting into his bag with no shade and what sure looked to me to be a UV filter. !!!! The Horror! And anything Jim Natchwey does I'm not inclined to argue with; not being incredibly stupid. But verbiage like "DESERT STORM" sure gets someone off the hook in my crusty eyes for modifying ones double-gauss design with protective sheet glass on the front. And I've been shooting at the final last leg of this trip sans shade as one broke and the other one just got on my nerves. Mark Rabiner The first of November at Central Park West At the NW Tip of Central Park by Columbia University New York 40?47'59.18"N 73?57'32.18"W http://rabinergroup.com/ And going from rabinergroup.com to markrabiner.com _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information