Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/27

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Subject: [Leica] M8 High ISO performance
From: tckline at gci.net (T C Kline)
Date: Fri Oct 27 18:06:13 2006
References: <C167C7DE.178AA%bd@bdcolenphoto.com>

There is a type of noise one gets from long exposures with digital. The 
M8 takes a 'blank' shot after long exposures to subtract this out as do 
some other but not all digital cameras.
Tom
On Oct 27, 2006, at 10:27, B. D. Colen wrote:

> The reality, Howard, is that if you put virtually any digital camera 
> on a
> tripod, using the self-timer, with the shutter open for a sufficient 
> period
> of time to provide an evenly lit, properly exposed image, noise is 
> unlikely
> to be an issue. But who shoots that way in the real world?
>
>
> On 10/26/06 9:28 PM, "Howard Cummer" <cummer@netvigator.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Luggers,
>> I don't subscribe to Sean Reid's pay for view review website. I do
>> respect the quality of Sean's reviews which are posted on http://
>> www.luminous-landscape.com/ - in fact I provided him with some of the
>> RAW files that he used to review the picture quality of the RD 1.
>> That said, I have used the preproduction M8 that Leica passed to Tom
>> A for assessment and I also attended the Leica Akademi in Wetzlar
>> after the LHSA meeting. It is hard to comment on Sean's report beyond
>> the interpretation provided by BD but my own experience with the
>> camera is that IS0 2500 produces blotchy colour in very low light
>> which needs a lot of post processing. But, turn the ISO down to
>> 1250,  use the self timer and set the camera on something steady,
>> open those Leica M lenses wide open, and something quite wonderful
>> happens. You have an image with great clarity, good contrast, and
>> very little noise. I took some pictures in the Wetzlar Dom in this
>> fashion and at the Akademi when we turned them into Grayscale and
>> looked at the grain they were virtually without grain. So, putting my
>> money where my mouth is, I have sold my Canon 5D (best CMOS on the
>> market no doubt - but a dust collector such that Canon gave me
>> coupons for additional free cleanings) and I have sold my RD 1 (with
>> seller's remorse I confess. We should all be grateful forever to
>> Epson for having produced the RD 1 - thus forcing Leica to produce
>> the M8 in the (almost) timely fashion that is was done). I am
>> certain, based on my own experience, that when the M8 is sold with
>> finalized software it is going to produce spectacularly good images.
>> I stress that in my case both my cameras used early (and imperfect)
>> software. Perhaps someone with a subscription to Sean's site can fill
>> us in on what model of 'ware his camera was using.
>> Yours skeptically
>> Howard (in Hong Kong)
>>
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