Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/11/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Then again teh Canon 1Ds MkII is twise the price of the M8 and it has high sales also, so the M8 is quite economical by comparison. Also everyone here keeps hitting on the fact that it is electronic and not mechanical. I'm sorry there are lots of electronic equipment out there that are still working just as well as when it was first bought 10 to 15 years atfer first bought. Electronic equipment is far better than you guys claim. And much of it is more reliable and more accurate than its mechanical foreberrers. Yes chips go out of production, but manufacturers of any quality reputation make lifetime buys of chips before they go out of production just for future repairs. I am using electronic gear right now that is over 30 years old and it is working just fine, and the last reapir on any of it was over 15 years ago. Most electronic failures happen within the first year and after that the repairs drop off drastically. I design military electronics and most of it today uses com ercial components as mil rated parts are very expensive and the government is no longer willing to pay the price for these parts. The equipment is still expected to last 20+ years. This argulent is no longer relevant today, so I expect the M8, R8/9's of today will still be working 20 + years from now. Remember this equipment must meet the European Unions EC standards for reliability and electromagnetic emissions and susceptibility standards, or it cannot be sold in Europe. There are equivalent standards in just about every country today. By your electronic is junk statements, my R4SP should be in the trash bin by now, strange it is still working just fine and just as accurate as it did when purchased new, according to the serial number it was made in early 1984, which makes it already 20+ years old. I guess it did not read the print about it dropping dead after 5-10 years. ;-) I'mnot a pro but I plan on getting a M8 just as soon as I figure out how to get by SWMBO without he r noticing it or the dent in the bank account. I expect it to be working just fine for many years to come. It may not be as supped up as the current cameras then, but as long as it is working the way it was designed I will be just as happy then. Gene -------------- Original message from Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com>: -------------- > not necessarily. The main reason why modern cars are more reliable > than old ones is the improved reliability of things like electronic > fuel injection over carburettors. Electronic shutters are more > accurate, more reliable and very much cheaper than mechanical ones. > I prefer mechanical myself but electronics is inherently more reliable. > Frank > > On 7 Nov, 2006, at 04:53, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: > > > Ted, > > But that was for a mechanical camera that would last a lifetime, > > not an electronic gizmo with a limited shelf life. Things will go > > wrong with PCBs... > > Cheers > > Jayanand > > > > > > Ted Grant wrote: > > > >> Walt Johnson offered: > >> Subject: Re: [Leica] 2500 ISO > >> > >>>>> I absolutely couldn't agree with you more about these new M8's. If > >>>> > >>> someone could show me a real advantage to $5000 cameras maybe.<<<< > >> > >> > >> Hi Walt, > >> Yeah it's expensive, but slip back a few years.... maybe late > >> '50's early '60 and buying a Leica was considered.... "Holy Cow > >> you paid what for that little thing?" attitude amongst the press > >> guys I worked with. > >> > >> But I had to have one, then another and another as my tools making > >> my assignment ratio climb like crazy. And I had lots of economic > >> arguments about spending money for bodies and lenses, but! I > >> began to shoot better photographs, see differently and shot where > >> others feared to shoot without blasting a twinkie light or two. > >> > >> As often as I've had to swallow hard at the Leica price on many > >> occasions, it's always been the "value of the tool" and not what > >> it cost. It's what it allowed me to do that counted, period. > >> > >> Yep 5 grand will buy you a lot of tri-x. But if you don't have the > >> right tools at hand that allow you to shoot what motivates you, > >> then the film is a throw away. No? > >> > >> And like you I can't imagine wrecking an M8 as I too would cry all > >> the way to the repair shop, bank, and pharmacist. Or maybe that > >> should be... Bank, repair shop and padded cell! ;-) > >> > >> ted > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information