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Subject: [Leica] arizona desert cemetary...II
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Fri Nov 10 11:31:59 2006
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Steve Barbour showed revised versions:
Subject: [Leica] arizona desert cemetary...II


> several people wisely suggested a crop, and I did this...
> also several wondered about which is best, color vs bw....
> so do I... what do you think ?
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/cross+flower.jpg.html
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/barbour/cross+flowerbw.jpg.html<<<<

Steve a very interesting comparison indeed, both cropping and colour vs. 
B&W.

Pre-crop:
I "almost" like the more open feel about it and can say "I like it 
un-cropped". Almost! Even though I thought the crop would be better I'm now 
questioning it. But the right side is a distraction, so maybe if you had 
cropped it first and posted it cropped, then we'd not have the opportunity 
to see it both ways.

Cropped:
But even with the crop done right on the mark, I now have this feeling it's 
jammed too tightly together. Unfortunately this happens sometimes in 
photography. And I'd have to accept the cropped version simply because the 
items on the right are without question a distraction.

I suppose if one were to put their "honesty as a photojournalist" aside for 
a moment and clonned over the disturbing pieces then the crammed space 
wouldn't be there and the picture would be fine. However, as 
photojournalists that's not our cup of tea.

So it needs to either stay cropped, or maybe try to burn the right side down 
to a slightly darker level to cut the distraction. Not dark dark, but 
subtly.

The conversion to B&W does absolutely nothing for the picture at all. This 
is due to the yellow flower playing such a strong part of the over all 
picture in colour that it doesn't have in B&W. Actually it merely becomes a 
distracting blob of white waiting to be "spotted out!"

Given this situation is on a list there will be at least 809 versions, 3 in 
agreement, and 3 who don't care. ;-)

However, I still want to see the picture of you throwing the yellow flower 
precisely where it is for maximum effect of composition! ;-)

ted












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