Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/12/08

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Subject: [Leica] Math, now bwc41 at 800
From: faneuil at gmail.com (Eric Korenman)
Date: Fri Dec 8 15:32:50 2006
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20061206152403.027b4508@infoave.net> <23C63C29-1E1D-43D6-A946-45C580F2326E@pandora.be> <4577300C.7000108@mcclary.net> <F04C2DAF-1C77-416C-ACC7-72A31E62F94F@pandora.be> <p0623090dc19e3edfaa21@10.1.16.133> <4578A515.7040506@waltjohnson.com> <p06230914c19eb640e40f@10.1.16.133> <45796BA5.1080109@waltjohnson.com> <C191A03E-177F-47CF-82F5-833737DBB103@cox.net> <45797B5B.4020903@waltjohnson.com>

TCN  does best at ISO 320.
It gets way too thin at ISO 800.
just 2 cents from shooting hundreds of rolls of the stuff.

Eric

On 12/8/06, Walt Johnson <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote:
>
> Steve
>
> It sounds as if you're going to underexpose by a stop. What result are
> you looking for?
>
> Walt
>
> Steve Barbour wrote:
>
> > Walt and others... have you shot C41bw 400, at 800 with normal
> > development?  Results?
> >
> > I see this now as advantageous, have never done it, but I plan to
> > try....
> >
> > thankjs, Steve
> >
> >
> > On Dec 8, 2006, at 6:41 AM, Walt Johnson wrote:
> >
> >> I think I'll start shooting all my Tri-X at 666 ISO. BTW has anyone
> >> noticed the change (years ago) from ASA to ISO appears useless?
> >>
> >> Henning Wulff wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Doesn't it have something to do with logging rhythms. in .3
> >>>> increments?
> >>>>
> >>>> Henning Wulff wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> At 10:29 PM +0100 12/6/06, Philippe Orlent wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I was just remembering my ISO scale on the back of my MP:
> >>>>>> 50-100-200-400-800- etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But the zones in between are divided in 3 parts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So between 50-100: 50/3=16,7
> >>>>>> Between: 100-200: 100/3=33,33, which would put 160 at 100
> and  2/3ds
> >>>>>> Two full stops under brings us at
> >>>>>> 400 and 2/3ds
> >>>>>> Which is 400 + (800-400)x2/3= 666,7
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I may be wrong, but it looks like Leica logics to me.
> >>>>>> :-)
> >>>>>> Philippe
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ISO is not continuous. It's only defined for the discrete
> >>>>> progression (from 100 to 3200) for 100, 125, 160, 200, 250, 320,
> >>>>> 400, 500, 640, 800, 1000, 1250, 1600, 2000, 2500, 3200.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No numbers in between, ie, there is not 'ISO 300' or 'ISO 666'.
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>> ISO combines the old ASA and DIN scales, and makes the measurement
> >>> methods and ratings equivalent. DIN was logarithmic while ASA was
> >>> arithmetic, with 400 ASA = 27DIN, 320 ASA = 26 DIN. For every step
> >>> the ASA took an arithmetic step, and DIN took a logarithmic step.
> >>> Different measurement methods meant that there wasn't a complete
> >>> equivalency, but then they got together and came out with the ISO
> >>> method and scaling, which allows for both an arithmetic and
> >>> logarithmic scale. So now the old 400 ASA is approximately
> ISO  400/27.
> >>>
> >>> Both systems jump in discrete, defined steps with intermediate
> >>> values undefined.
> >>>
> >>
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