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Subject: [Leica] M8 Article in LFI
From: bd at bdcolenphoto.com (B. D. Colen)
Date: Wed Jan 10 10:46:12 2007

But if precisely the same $4800 camera - looked and felt like a film M, nice
bright viewfinder, solidly built, M lens mount, 10 mpg - with precisely the
same problems - electronic but no dust or moisture seals, banding, IR
weirdness, green blobs, questionable battery life, need for IR cut-off
filters on lenses, noise levels much, much higher than Canon's, etc. etc. -
were manufactured by Nikon, Canon, Cosina, or Zeiss for that matter, would
you still call it "a great camera and worth the extra learning curve?"


On 1/10/07 1:24 PM, "mehrdad" <msadat@gmail.com> wrote:

> despite, all of the problems, it is a great camera and worth the
> learning curve extra cost.
> 
> On 1/10/07, Colin J <smcj35@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Eric Korenman wrote:
>>> 
>>> The recent article in LFI about the M8 takes on three major issues:
>>> 
>>> 1) IR - they explain it well and the steps to deal with it.
>>> 
>>> 2) Banding - they say it was fixed in the hardware upgrade
>>> 
>>> 3) 8 / 16 bit capture..
>>> 
>>> ..Well here is where I think they turn on the smoke machine and bring in
>>> some mirrors.
>>> They present information about how the data is compressed by the square 
>>> root
>>> ,
>>> but when it comes down to it, it still sounds like a form of lossy data
>>> compression.
>>> 
>>> IE, The chip captures 14 bit data, crunches  it to a non-linear 8 bit 
>>> form,
>>> which is latter re-expanded
>>> to bit to form the final 16 bit image file.
>>> 
>>> So.. Isn't the weakest link in the imaging processing chain an 8 bit 
>>> format?
>>> LFI then goes on to say essentially "you won't see the difference anyway"
>>> 
>>> Anyone care to help on the matter? I am missing the point?
>> 
>> 
>> Eric,
>> 
>> The only point you are missing is that no-one should question or criticise
>> the Leica M8 on this mailing list.  We should always be supporting Leica
>> instead, and saying only nice things about the M8 ...
>> 
>> ... like Mr Erwin Puts is now doing, now he is back on the payroll.
>> 
>> Yours with a wry smile (because we are not permitted to laugh),
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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