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Subject: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan
From: s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan dimitrov)
Date: Mon May 7 19:49:27 2007
References: <000301c7901b$5d5de5e0$619acc48@GATEWAY><2CC34D05-E7D7-4825-A7F5-C2095D3AD14C@charter.net><006401c790e6$da63f450$2101a8c0@luispersonal> <E92E52EF-674B-4A1F-A160-7A48D9484241@charter.net> <009001c790f8$8ff78140$2101a8c0@luispersonal> <5837CC56-0596-4DB7-A0C2-C55C5BCA030D@charter.net> <463FD6BF.3060101@waltjohnson.com>

This is before one gets to the zone system.

S.Dimitrov


On May 7, 2007, at 6:47 PM, Walt Johnson wrote:

> Nine negative test? anything like the Zone System?
>
> slobodan dimitrov wrote:
>> Actually, it's not the lens performance that is in question so  
>> much as the performance of the photographer.
>> The issue in this image is that of exposure and processing.
>> Luis, tell me, have you ever done a 9 negative test?
>>
>> S. Dimitrov
>>
>>
>> On May 7, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Slobodan,
>>>
>>> Not at all, exceot if you want... it will be welcome as always,  
>>> my own
>>> critique is on the lens performance, I don't like very much this  
>>> picture,
>>> IMO the results of this strong backlight situation reminds me the  
>>> results I
>>> had with other older lenses, i.e. I think that actual Summicron will
>>> performs better on such situation.
>>>
>>> Saludos cordiales
>>> Luis
>>>
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En  
>>> nombre de
>>> Slobodan Dimitrov
>>> Enviado el: martes, 08 de mayo de 2007 0:33
>>> Para: Leica Users Group
>>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan
>>>
>>> Are you asking for a critique?
>>>
>>> Slobodan Dimitrov
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Luis Ripoll wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Slobodan,
>>>>
>>>> I had a hard work editing this picture with the new Elmar-M, of  
>>>> course
>>>> it is a very strong light situation, and I'm sure that it would be
>>>> very difficult to manage with any other lens, but on a such crazy
>>>> test...
>>>>
>>>>  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3023665
>>>>
>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>> Luis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>>> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En
>>>> nombre de slobodan dimitrov Enviado el: domingo, 06 de mayo de 2007
>>>> 23:44
>>>> Para: Leica Users Group
>>>> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5  
>>>> Summaron
>>>> - NowSummitar
>>>>
>>>> I have a LTM Summitar from the early 1950's. While of a slightly  
>>>> lower
>>>> contrast, what it gains in flare makes it virtually useless near  
>>>> the
>>>> ocean.
>>>> out here.
>>>> Now the new Elmar-M, that's a different story. Less prone to  
>>>> flare, if
>>>> at all, and smooth consistent luminosity under the worst possible
>>>> light condition.
>>>>
>>>> S. Dimitrov
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 6, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I mean pancake flat, like an Elmar. Daniel want to put it in his
>>>>> trouser pocket.
>>>>>
>>>>> But now that you mention it, last week a guest speaker at the LHSA
>>>>> spring shoot mentioned some excellent low contrast Leica  
>>>>> lenses, but
>>>>> I failed to write it down. Like you, I get terrible contrast  
>>>>> problems
>>>>> in the subtropical sun down here. The lens he mentioned was  
>>>>> probably
>>>>> single-coated, post-WWII.
>>>>> It wasn't the Summarit or the Summaron (I have both of those). My
>>>>> recollection (fuzzy) was that it was a Summitar. Anyone out  
>>>>> there use
>>>>> one of those these days?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeffery Smith
>>>>> New Orleans, LA
>>>>> http://www.400tx.com
>>>>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On  
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> slobodan dimitrov
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:07 PM
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5
>>>>> Summaron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In my lighting environment, the harbors of LA and LB, their  
>>>>> contrast
>>>>> suits me just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> S. Dimitrov
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 6, 2007, at 11:09 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I started one re: people's thoughts on 35mm LTM lenses,  
>>>>>> but I
>>>>>> didn't care if they were FLAT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeffery Smith
>>>>>> New Orleans, LA
>>>>>> http://www.400tx.com
>>>>>> http://400tx.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>>>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On  
>>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>>> Daniel Ridings
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 3:16 AM
>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5
>>>>>> Summaron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it my brain or did we have a 35mm LTM thread last week or the
>>>>>>> week before Remember how I mentioned my Summaron? Others  
>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>> others?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am sorry to have missed it. I have had to pass over  
>>>>>> hundreds, if
>>>>>> not a couple thousand, postings lately. I just haven't been  
>>>>>> able to
>>>>>> keep up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the tip. I'll check out the archives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
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In reply to: Message from jsmith342 at cox.net (Jeffery Smith) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 Summaron - Now Summitar)
Message from s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan dimitrov) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and 35/3.5 Summaron - Now Summitar)
Message from luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan)
Message from s.dimitrov at charter.net (Slobodan Dimitrov) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan)
Message from luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan)
Message from s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan dimitrov) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan)
Message from walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson) ([Leica] Experiences with 35/3.5 Elmar and... To Slobodan)