Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/11/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Alastair, I have wanted the DMR for some time. When I bought my R8 the intent was to get a DMR to go with it. I'm afraid I waited too long. Since a lot of my shooting is either birding or macro, like flowers, The long Telyts and the APO 100mm macro Elmarit on a 20D worked just fine. But I found my wide angle shots on a 1.5 or 1.6 crop body lacking. So I went to the canon 5D which I consider a very capable camera. Leica wide angle lenses don't work too well if at all on Canon bodies. Nikon lens are hard to focus without a focus confirmation adapter. I don't like the Canon wides. So I'll just wait for the D3. Fortunately the WATE on the M8 works just fine. Len On Nov 4, 2007, at 9:54 PM, <afirkin@afirkin.com> <afirkin@afirkin.com> wrote: > Len, > I have to say, that I've seen some surprizingly odd Canon wide > angles in my travels. Quite often the owners is sprouting its > virtues and so I keep very quite, but I keep thinking "nothing like > my wides". This is one reason that I have not dabbled into Canon's > EOS system, though I'm sure it would be fantastic for the wildlife > stuff I've been doing in the polar regions. BUT even with tele's > the sharpness is certainly no better than my 180 with 2x converter, > so I was really very happy with the DMR. (I really do not shoot > fast enough to panic about the buffer, though I can see why others > would). Of course the DMR limits my wides by being less than full > frame. Better start saving for that R10!!!!! > > > Cheers > > --- len-1@comcast.net wrote: > > From: Leonard Taupier <len-1@comcast.net> > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] 16-16-15 lens comparison > Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:22:07 -0500 > > Hi Mark, > > I'm kinda fussy with the glass I buy. I can't tolerate bad barrel > distortion. The biggest offenders of course are the wide range zooms > which have barrel at the wide end and pincushion at the narrow end. I > have been using Nikon lenses for many years and pretty much have not > had to worry about this distortion. I also have the Nikon AF 14mm > f2.8 lens and find it to be pretty free of distortion. Just like my > Leica gear. > > I have been using a Canon 5D camera for the last few months primarily > for it's low noise and to utilize the full frame for my Nikon and > Leica wide angle lenses via adapters. Well I decided to get a Canon > zoom to carry around and I got the Canon 24-105mm L zoom. This is one > of Canon's so called L professional lenses. I found this lens was > very sharp but the barrel distortion was so bad at 24mm that I would > not use it. The distortion was very weird. The upper half of the > frame was fairly straight but the bottom half of the frame bowed in > like a fish hook. I took it back to my dealer and tried another new > one right off the shelf. Same exact performance. The dealer is very > good so he said get anything else you want. So I tried the 24-70 L > zoom. It was very good at 24mm but at 70mm it had bad pincushion. > Both of these lenses are Canon's L lenses and cost over $1000. I > think they're crap. I ended taking home a fixed focal length lens. I > won't buy another Canon zoom. I'm actually thinking of getting rid of > all my Canon gear, except for the 20D I use with the 560 Telyt, when > the Nikon D3 comes out. > > Len > > > On Nov 4, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > >> Barrel distortion, the heartbreak of BD can be easily remedied now >> a days in >> Photoshop. You can not read a lens review anymore without the guy, >> Thom H, >> or Ken R. telling you the exact coordinates to punch in to take out >> the >> barrel distortion that a new nikon zoom will have at a certain >> focal length >> (FL). >> The time will come soon that lens designers will just say "we'll >> just let >> them fix the rest in software" and go home for dinner and give you >> a CD or >> URL so you can more easily punch them in. or they will be punched in >> automatically as part of the way the raw file thing works. >> >> >> I just shot a thing which came out today in the NYTimes in which I >> used >> instead of the blissful no stress 12-24 f4 zoom I'd been using for 5 >> different things. I used an: >> AF NIKKOR 14mm f/2.8D ED >> >> Quite a chuck of high tech glass. Leica priced almost. >> http://nikonimaging.com/global/products/lens/af/wideangle/ >> af_14mmf_28d/index >> .htm >> >> : >> Hybrid aspherical lens elements and ED glass elements for high- >> resolution >> and high-contrast images >> Used as 21mm (converted to 135 format) wide-angle lens when >> attached to the >> Nikon DX-format digital SLR's >> RF (Rear Focusing) system for fast and smooth optical performance >> >> >> I think it made a difference. It doesn't even look all that wide >> angle at >> all in many of the shots I've been repeatedly told I assume since >> it was so >> well corrected. >> >> I wonder if the fact that it was meant to work well as a 14mm lens >> and then >> we're chopping off the outside 1.5 edges of it to make it a 21 is a >> big plus >> in its performance. Like a baseball batter swinging with two bats >> then >> taking one away and stepping up to the plate. >> Its a heavy lens. A TCP Tunnel Carpel protagonist. >> A Tylenol is needed before and after heavy use. >> And or well placed helium filled balloons. >> Gary Fong makes one I think. A frosted one you can flash through. And >> lightens any load. >> LumiQuest makes one with a built in pump works with Hydrogen if you >> know >> where to get it. >> >> Pump it up too big on a windy day and watch your camera fly over a >> tree and >> get caught in a telephone wire. >> >> >> My spell checker suggested "LumiQuest" was really "Cumquats" just >> now. >> >> I'd call that fuzzy logic. >>> From the fuzz in someone's navel. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Mark William Rabiner >> markrabiner.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information