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Subject: [Leica] OT: Fixing radioactive lenses
From: joelct at singnet.com.sg (Joseph)
Date: Fri Nov 9 07:22:52 2007

Same here and we are referring to the first series with 8 elements ?

Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+joelct=singnet.com.sg@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+joelct=singnet.com.sg@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Nichols
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:17 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Fixing radioactive lenses

Chris,

You sure lost me!  I'm just happy that my 50/1.4 Takumar does not display 
the yellow cast.

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Saganich" <chs2018@med.cornell.edu>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Fixing radioactive lenses


> Well, I'm curious why it even works at all.  In a typical application 
> color is removed from glass by annealing or heating the glass at about 800

> F for a short time and slowly cooling.  The time and temperature are the 
> main issues and a  look into glass annealing (ie gemstone and color center

> activation) should shed some light.  Perhaps a slight elevation of 
> temperature for 24 hours?
>
> The UV wavelength for A and B are not high enough per se to cause a 
> redistribution of electrons in the atomic valence but UV C does have a 
> high enough wavelength.  The only problem is that is how the color is 
> activated in the first place, by kicking around electrons!  In order to 
> have the process reversed the UV and the glass must have broad energy 
> states in common to cause enough heat  absorption to weaken the existing 
> bonding allowing new lower energy bonds to form eliminating the number of 
> electron radicals in the mix.  Since UV C is more likely to ionize and 
> create electron radicals minimizing the UV C would seem like an idea. 
> Anyway UV C is filtered by the atmosphere so if leaving the lenses in the 
> sunlight works, the UV C isn't the important agent of change.
>
> At 12:14 PM 11/8/2007, you wrote:
>>Thanks Chris
>>I stopped using the window sill. I've been putting the lens in the
>>sun when it's bright, but most of the time I've been using a BLB
>>blacklight bulb. It's only UVA. I don't know which wavelength is most
>>effective. I could buy a UVB suntan lamp but I won't spend the money.
>>If what I'm doing doesn't work I'll just continue to shoot b&w with
>>the lens and be very happy.
>>
>>Len
>>
>>
>>On Nov 8, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Chris Saganich wrote:
>>
>>>I believe low-E glass coatings suppress infrared, either way those
>>>coatings don't do much for UV.  The UV you would need to reverse
>>>the coloration would be quite a bit more then found on a
>>>windowsill.  About one month continuous 24/7 exposure would do the
>>>trick.  Best to get a UV lamp and a tinfoil lined box.
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris Saganich, Sr. Physicist
>>>Weill Medical College of Cornell University
>>>New York Presbyterian Hospital
>>>chs2018@med.cornell.edu
>>>Ph. 212.746.6964
>>>Fax. 212.746.4800
>>>Office A-0049
>>>
>>>
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> Chris Saganich, Sr. Physicist
> Weill Medical College of Cornell University
> New York Presbyterian Hospital
> chs2018@med.cornell.edu
> Ph. 212.746.6964
> Fax. 212.746.4800
> Office A-0049
>
>
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