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Subject: [Leica] Erwin Puts tests the summarits
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Mon Nov 19 17:06:42 2007
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I've been to Oz a couple times and even that may be suspect. Not to  
say I'm perfect of course. ;-)

Len


On Nov 19, 2007, at 7:47 PM, G Hopkinson wrote:

> Jeffery, it may be that the language suffers a little in that  
> English would not be Erwin's primary language, of course. We're lucky
> to have the reviews available in English, I think. I wish I had a  
> good grasp on languages other than my native tongue.
> Cheers
> Geoff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Erwin Puts tests the summarits
>
> Sometimes I wish he was more descriptive with his reviews. When he  
> tells me
> that a lens I am planning to buy "invites sympathy" at f/3.5, it  
> seems like
> a positive spin on a negative attribute.
>
> On Nov 19, 2007 4:54 PM, Michiel Fokkema  
> <michiel.fokkema@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> Nothing personal but I have to defend Erwin here because he is not on
>> this list anymore
>>
>> Erwin has assured me that he is not paid by Leica. He does btw has a
>> normal day job as a business consultant
>> I have met him several times, as have others here on the list. I'm  
>> sure
>> he is integer and he is a very nice person too.
>> He has a wealth of (inside) knowledge and also does criticize  
>> leica as
>> he thinks it is appropriate.
>> He has not been treated very well here on the list by some people,  
>> which
>> in my opinion is very shameful.
>> You might not agree with him, or you may not like the way he  
>> writes but
>>  in my opinion he is fully reliable in his testing and his book on
>> Leica lenses is an all time classic which I consult very often.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Michiel Fokkema
>>
>> Steve Barbour wrote:
>>> as all lenses are a compromise,  these are a bigger compromise  
>>> than most
>>> for Leica...
>>>
>>> We have to wonder what Erwin gets from Leica for writing these lens
>>> tests and reviews...
>>>
>>> hence, I'm not too sure he can be an objective and independent  
>>> testing
>>> service...
>>>
>>> but it's fun to read the stuff,
>>>
>>> fwiw...
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 3:25 PM, slobodan dimitrov wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or maybe Leica just threw in the towel, on the basis that their
>>>> previous optics are beyond the capabilities of their current client
>> base.
>>>>
>>>> Slobodan D.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Christopher Birchenhall wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Michiel
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the link. Sounds like Leica have hit a happy balance  
>>>> with
>>>> these new lenses.
>>>>
>>>> Chris B
>>>>
>>>> On 18/11/2007, Michiel Fokkema <michiel.fokkema@wanadoo.nl> wrote:
>>>>> http://www.imx.nl/photo/lenstest/summarit_lenses_part_one_no.html
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Michiel Fokkema
>>>>>
> -- 
> Jeffery L. Smith
> New Orleans, LA
>
>
>
>
>
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