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Subject: [Leica] My new Tel Aviv streets series ...
From: alex at zabrovsky.com (Alex)
Date: Wed Nov 21 02:51:46 2007
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Thanks Geoff, I'm listening to every advise on street shooting, in 
particular to those backed up by some reasonable experience. Keep it up. 
:-)
In fact, I tried 90mm lens as well for street - to my surprise it worked 
not bad at all, but yet turned to be quite slow for typical street pace 
(slow in focusing), requires precise focusing on the subject and often 
flatten the perspective too much for my liking. Of course, that 90mm 
Elmarit is just gorgeous when it comes to dedicated portraiture though...

Cheatin with AF cameras ? Xmm, I'm afraid I did not get your point ? 
What do you mean by that ? In fact I do not own an AF camera not to 
mention DSLR...neither I own anything except of my leica M system (M6 
and M3). BTW, as about 50mm lens - it is still my main tool, in 
particular coupled to M3. Right now my M3 is on its way back to me from 
Youxin after minor repair, in the mean time (last few weeks) 35mm 'Cron 
took the majority of the workout on my M6.
I'm planing to ship my M6 to Sherry or DAG for a basic CLA + RF 
anti-flaring upgrade, then 50mm lens will back to my hands on M3 as the 
main tool.

Alex


G Hopkinson wrote:

>Well Alex every neighbourhood is a different environment too. I got bolder 
>as I did more of it last trip. This was in benign
>Amsterdam and Barcelona. 
><http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/2_001/B08.jpg.html>
>A 28 or 35 gives you the zone focus advantage of course, but you can't beat 
>a fifty for filling the frame if you get closer. (I'm no
>HCB). A ninety is really nice if you have the time to manage the focus and 
>composition. Groups occupied watching or listening etc of
>course are helpful there. But no cheating with AF cameras, or clever DSLRs 
>where you don't need to put it to your eye, OK? Where's
>the challenge in that! Don't forget to share some more pictures with us.
>Cheers
>Geoff
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>Subject: Re: [Leica] My new Tel Aviv streets series ...
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>Thanks Geoff, the pre-focusing/scaling + exp. pre-set is exactly the 
>approach I follow when shooting with 35mm lens (thanks to deep DOF). 
>Then, when I estimate the subject enters the reasonable DOF range I 
>expect, I raise the camera  to my eye, quickly compose and shoot - take 
>no more then 1-2 seconds for the camera to be in shooting position. And 
>of course, I do draw a smile on my face and also noticed that helping in 
>most of the situations - some subjects are even smiling back after the 
>shot...
>Yet then I need to learn getting closer....
>
>G Hopkinson wrote:
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>>Alex, I am just learning some street shooting photography as well. I have 
>>found that a smile helps a lot, if you catch the
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>subject's
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>>eye. Sometimes you just want to be unseen, of course. But be organised, 
>>pre-focus to close to what you want and have the exposure
>>sorted out. So then you can just raise your camera quickly, focus, 
>>compose, click and move on. It gets easier with more practice!
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>In
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>>a friendly neighbourhood I found that I was shooting from two or three 
>>metres in busy streets and was seldom even noticed. When I
>>was noticed I just smiled and gestured with the camera. If they indicated 
>>no, I smiled and moved on.
>>Cheers
>>Geoff
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] My new Tel Aviv streets series ...
>>
>>OK, thanks guys.
>>I'm still at my learning curve on streets, your comments are of great 
>>value for me.
>>Getting closer....xmm, not the easiest task, often requires necessary 
>>level of impudence to stick the camera into people's faces, but I guess 
>>this probaly must be accepted as the part of street shooting skills....
>>Need to learn yet...
>>
>>Lottermoser George wrote:
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>>>I experienced a similar feeling when viewing the series. I believe  
>>>that one of the reasons "street" photographers often choose medium to  
>>>very wide angle lenses rests in the ability to create strong  
>>>foreground background relationships; achieving both an intimacy with  
>>>the subject (usually people) along with a  significant amount of the  
>>>environment in which they're interacting.
>>>
>>>The scale relationships of people to environment, as they interact in  
>>>these compositions leave me wondering if the architecture or the  
>>>folks are the intended subject. Many of the images seem to lack a  
>>>strong focal point. I do enjoy the texture and tonality of the  
>>>series; yet I don't feel drawn into the scene; almost as if I'm up  
>>>against an invisible fence.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>George Lottermoser
>>>george@imagist.com
>>>www.imagist.com
>>>Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Nov 20, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Philippe Amard wrote:
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>>>>may I suggest that you try and get nearer to your subjects?
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