Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/11/27

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Subject: [Leica] Leica D lens 4/3rds question.
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue Nov 27 08:16:07 2007
References: <C3711369.77D6F%mark@rabinergroup.com> <C54597B9-573A-4CF3-ADCB-6B53FA446F1A@mchsi.com> <000001c830f4$0b7612a0$6401a8c0@asus930>

On Nov 27, 2007, at 5:50 AM, G Hopkinson wrote:

> Philip I posted a response. I was trying to say that four thirds is  
> by no means half frame WRT resolution. I see the perceived issue
> as noise levels since the photo-sites on a smaller sensor for the  
> same resolution are by necessity smaller. However there are huge
> advances in sensor designs, processing algorithms, micro-lens  
> configurations and post processing. There are advantages such as the
> less angled input to the peripheral photo-sites (given the four  
> thirds philosophy of lens design) and finally compact form factors
> which make sense to me for four thirds bodies. It seems to depend on  
> your frame of reference. From the film world 1600 ISO or
> similar, grain would be expected and accepted without comment. Now  
> noise is a problem. The holy grail being 6400ISO equivalent at
> Kodachrome 25 grain or some such. Oh and a dynamic range of 12 stops  
> of course.
> I don't know, I have seen some superb results from the E410, 510 and  
> now the E3, not to mention the L1, Digilux 3 etc. Really we
> must be past film/sensor comparisons. Apples and oranges and all that.


it's all about the pictures that result....


if you got e'm ?

show e'm...

:-)


Steve


>
>
> To drift back on topic, I wonder what Photokina will bring from  
> Solms or will it be Wetzlar? Some suprises I bet.
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> Film guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica D lens 4/3rds question.
>
> A visual representation of same:
>
> <http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/SensorSizes.png>
>
> Phil
> On Nov 26, 2007, at 11:20 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>
>> In film terms the camera format is half half frame.
>> They've got to scale down the camera to to get my attention.
>> There are nice digital half frames out here (APS-2 or DX) which are
>> half the
>> size of these bloated 4/3's babies.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> markrabiner.com
>>
>>
>>
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Replies: Reply from phamard at numericable.fr (Philippe Amard) ([Leica] Leica D lens 4/3rds question.)
In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Leica D lens 4/3rds question.)
Message from pjleeson at mchsi.com (Philip Leeson) ([Leica] Leica D lens 4/3rds question.)
Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson) ([Leica] Leica D lens 4/3rds question.)