Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/12/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks for that link! I immediately fell on http://www.donaggioart.it. Esp. the fine arts selection. Philippe Op 1-dec-07, om 18:06 heeft Douglas Sharp het volgende geschreven: > All sorts of contemporary photography/photographers here too. > http://www.photoserver.info/photoart.htm Particularly under the > items Experimental and Young Photographers > Douglas > > Lottermoser George wrote: >> On Nov 30, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Don Dory wrote: >>> George, >>> First, I really appreciate this thread. >> >> And I really appreciate your thoughtful response. >> You've provided some useful insights. >> >>> The images you posted are frankly, >>> boring rehash of the past hundred years or so. >> >> I agree. Pushing the photographic art edge, for me, does not >> simply mean >> putting the latest outrageous costume and makeup in front of the >> camera. >> >>> I see quite a few >>> portfolio's coming off SCAD students and it is more of the same. >>> I guess >>> what I am really saying is that we are in an inter period waiting >>> for the >>> genius who will push us forward. To my eye, Kyle's basement jump >>> pictures >>> are far more bleeding edge than what was shown. No disrespect, >>> those folks >>> are making money and selling images and I am not in their >>> demographic >>> anyway. >> >> And yet, are they derivative of the Pillipe Halsman work of 50 >> years ago? >> Simply a different subject, within a different environment. >> And in the case of the Dali Halsman book, the work was actually >> more appropriate >> in both content and context to the subject - a surrealist painter. >> >>> As a non genius, I can't point the way forward, except to suggest >>> that it >>> will not be a female form in whatever raiment or contortion. I >>> think that >>> it will come out of the gay community. My gut is that culture is >>> finally >>> feeling confident enough to really come out of the closet and >>> publicly push >>> the boundaries, not just in an annual gay pride parade. >> >> Quite thought provoking. You seem to suggest that the "new vision" >> will come >> out of "new social patterns" which, of course, makes a lot of >> sense; and is probably >> historically accurate as well. Along these lines; do you think >> Mapplethorpe qualifies >> as "cutting edge" for his period? It would seem so; even that he >> paved the way for >> one of the areas you're alluding to. >> >>> My other suggestion >>> is that the death culture, whether it is the heroin chick, or the >>> degraded >>> view of the model has just about run it's course. Probably some >>> orthogonal >>> right angle that none of us see now. >>> I have also been seeing some interesting images coming out of the >>> hip hop >>> community. Different culture with many of the correct societal >>> filters >>> removed, a lot earthier and a lot more sexual tension hinted at >>> in the best >>> images. >> >> Without a doubt. Some of the most interesting students I had, in >> Chicago, came out >> of the hip hop culture. Very honest, raw, and yet aesthetically >> astute. One student >> in particular had enormous drive. The semester's final, project >> had very modest minimum >> size requirements, 11x14 inches. She came in with an 8x10 foot >> painting to >> demonstrate her passion for graffiti art. She literally brought us >> a "wall." >> >>> One example that I can't lead too was one of my associates that >>> was at the >>> LA Art Institute. Her fashion portfolio was ordinary items >>> draped in a home >>> situation or hanging out to dry with the LA city scape in the >>> background. >>> >>> If I get permission I will post some links. Sorry to not be more >>> visual at >>> this point. >> >> I look forward to hearing and seeing more on this subject from you. >> >> Regards, >> George Lottermoser >> george@imagist.com >> www.imagist.com >> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >