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Subject: [Leica] Some more 'cutting the edge'
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Tue Dec 11 18:31:26 2007
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I do not believe that any art is universal - most art is a reflection of the
society that produced it. It becomes sort of universal because we become
familiar with that culture. Music is similar - how many on this list are in
a position to appreciate Indian classical music, even though the general
culture is somewhat familiar?
Cheers
Jayanand


On Dec 11, 2007 11:29 PM, Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@pandora.be>
wrote:

> I do believe that there is some art that is universal.
> And analysing one's feelings post the initial event that caused them
> always reveals alot. For future actions f.i.
> Because of my job (influencing mass behaviour) it became an
> instinctive reflex.
> It all starts with never ceising to ask 'why'?
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
>
> Op 11-dec-07, om 01:40 heeft Don Dory het volgende geschreven:
>
> > Philippe,
> > By definition, art is an attempt to reach your soul; bypass the
> > analytical
> > part of our thinking.  Also, art will not be universal: what
> > reaches me may
> > leave you cold.  So, Jackson Pollack does nothing for me but Braque
> > and
> > Matisse sing for me.  Likewise I can spend hours looking at Moore's
> > bronzes
> > and learn about myself but many Rodin's just leave a shadow in the
> > grass.
> >
> > So yes, art is only practical as it brings us to places we could
> > not get to
> > without a little help from someone else's vision.  People could go on
> > without art, it just would be a lot grayer.
> >
> > On Dec 8, 2007 12:10 PM, Philippe Orlent
> > <philippe.orlent@pandora.be> wrote:
> >
> >> Following that principle: no rococo, no art nouveau, art deco, no
> >> Pollock, no Braque, Matisse, ...
> >> I love Bauhaus, but Bauhaus was developed for practical purposes.
> >> Art does not have to be practical.
> >> Philippe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Op 8-dec-07, om 17:39 heeft Lottermoser George het volgende
> >> geschreven:
> >>
> >>> For me the term indicates a use of clever or cunning devices or
> >>> expedients, for their own sake; above the desire or need to express
> >>> from the heart and soul; or the need to express thoughts or ideas
> >>> which "ring true."
> >>>
> >>> The dictionary suggests "esp. as used to trick or deceive others,"
> >>>
> >>> I don't know if I'd go that far in my personal definition of the
> >>> term.
> >>>
> >>> The Bauhaus principle of "form follows function" stuck with me as
> >>> student and ever since. Ornament for its own sake does not appeal
> >>> to me. For me, artifice stands very close to ornament.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> George Lottermoser
> >>> george@imagist.com
> >>> www.imagist.com
> >>> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 7, 2007, at 7:15 PM, Philippe Orlent wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Does artifice mean the same as untrue, then?
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Don
> > don.dory@gmail.com
> >
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