Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/12/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ted, really good thoughts. I like to see and learn from these photograph critiques. There should be more here. I'm with you on the head-body positioning, the corner I hadn't thought about, but it gives a new aspect now that I look again. Understood also on the amount of the hand/paper visible. I don't know if Philippe planned for it to be there; Philippe??? But I bet he did think about it in the picture as presented. Showing our different approaches/backgrounds, Ted suggests burning it down. I immediately PS'ed it out of there, cloning in flipped, feathered selections. I'd add one more note. The scan has introduced bad noise and there is no detail remaining at all in the darks as shown. An automated machine scan by the Fuji lab, I would think. Viewed larger it is very prominent and detracts from the image. Of course what we are seeing are low resolution versions of Philippe's photograph. Cheers Geoff -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Ted Grant Sent: Monday, 24 December 2007 08:29 To: 'Leica Users Group' Subject: RE: [Leica] IMG: les aveugles Just to stir this a bit. :-) I like the head-body positioning in relationship to the painting along with a note of experience on this kind of shoot. You'll find many interesting body language situations in relation to the art, photographs, whatever is on the walls if you're working near a corner setting. I'd almost bet Philippe is shooting toward a corner to the right (out of sight) as we see this picture because of the head and body directions. Philippe were you? The hand/paper on the left side, although not a great distraction, is one if you read the photograph carefully. And I don't believe there's enough hand arm body to make it part of the overall look of the picture. As Hoppy says, it indicates another human. Well it does, but there isn't enough to make it worthwhile therefore it becomes a bit of a distraction that can be "burnt down" slightly, less obvious. Or crop the photo removing the hand/paper eliminating the distraction leaving the heads - painting still the key elements, therefore it survives. You can't crop vertically from the left in due to taking out the lady in blue shirt top and shoulder scarf who is a key part of the design. So you're left to burn, darken the hand/paper or crop just taking them out. A shortened photo but it just makes it. In my humble opinion. ted -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of G Hopkinson Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 1:45 PM To: 'Leica Users Group' Subject: RE: [Leica] IMG: les aveugles Steve, this is by way of an alternate viewpoint. We can see what Philippe set out to do with the photograph and I think it does accomplish that. I like the relationship of the four heads' positions. The hand at bottom left has been mentioned, but I think that, since it happened, Philippe has certainly left it there for a reason. It would have been trivial to remove. Since it has entered the frame, it can be seen as inferring another person passing by in the gallery without looking. Of course, it is all to tell a story implying that the painting is underappreciated. I have no doubt that you could convey the opposite by choosing when to press the shutter button. The magic of photographic storytelling! Cheers Geoff -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barbour Sent: Monday, 24 December 2007 00:50 To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: les aveugles On Dec 22, 2007, at 1:27 PM, Philippe Orlent wrote: > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/phorlent/F1000028_001.JPG.html I have looked at this now 5-6 times Philippe, I of course know what you were going for, this doesn't do it... and the lower left is a distraction... but I love the painting... :-) Steve > > > Comments, suggestions and critiques welcomed. > Thanks for looking, > Philippe > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1193 - Release Date: 12/22/2007 2:02 PM _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information