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Subject: [Leica] The Tele elmarit 135 Is So A Real Pooch of a Lens
From: iilbz at yahoo.com (DL)
Date: Fri Jan 4 14:26:35 2008

I have used the 135/2.8 Elmarit R lens long time ago as one of my very first 
R lenses with satisfaction.  I remember it performed pretty well.  I once 
used the M version with blurriness and later heard about fine-tuning on each 
M body you use.  Other than that, I would say optically it is a good 
performer as far as I experienced.
  For M, I would recommend the Tele-Elmar which is a stellar performer.  It 
is so close to F3.4 APO version that it is considered to have an APO element 
as many of you already know.
   
  Best Wishes,
  David

Buzz Hausner <buzz.hausner@verizon.net> wrote:
  Hey, they're cheap enough; you bought one, so you can decide for yourself 
if
the lens is any good. I think all of the 135 Elmarits had the same optical
formula, but I could be mistaken about that. Even so, I have used
Expressions I and II and in my opinion they were both miserable. I don't
know anything about the R series lenses, but I would never acquire an M lens
based on someone's evaluation of an R lens of similar focal length and
f-stop.

What is your unstated purpose for needing this lens? It might make a good
portrait lens if you could solve the framing problem. I for one would be
reluctant to use it as a paperweight because the edges of the lens mount
could etch fine paper.

Buzz


On 1/4/08 3:29 PM, "Michiel Fokkema" wrote:

> Thanks for all your reactions.
> I can't imagine it is that bad.
> I've read quit a few positive reactions on the net also.
> Doug Herr for instance says it is a fine lens. Yes the tele elmar is 
> better.
> I was interested in the difference between version 1/2 and 3. I have a
> version 2 R lens and am hoping the version M 1/2 will be close.
> I now have bought a version 1 for a very low price and hope it will
> serve its purpose. Otherwise it will make a fine paperweight:-)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michiel Fokkema
> 
> buzz.hausner@verizon.net wrote:
>> Well, if one considers a lens with exceedingly low contrast, soft edge
>> definition, and relatively low color separation to be "okay" then, yes, 
>> the
>> 135 f/2.8 is merely clumsy. Make no mistake, in addition to these issues
>> regarding image quality, it is a big, heavy lens which is virtually
>> impossible to frame and a bitch...remember, I said it was a pooch...to 
>> focus,
>> especially with those eyes. One could call it "clumsy," but that is being
>> kind.
>> 
>> Buzz



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