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Subject: [Leica] December 2007 LUG Photo Contest results
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll)
Date: Sat Jan 5 16:37:42 2008
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Hi Philippe,

I like very much too the second prize picture, it was one of my favorites.
In my opinion is very difficult, and impossible that the Jury opinions be
the same as the individual ones, and finally the results are consequence of
the votes. The George Lottermorser picture produces on me a great emotion
too, is a very good one, and is really nice the Jayanand, Walt did a great
job!, and the general level of this contest was really high.

Finally, thanks for your personal rate too "Au bon vieux temps", the caption
should be in french because I shot in on the Sunday ball (Le bal du
dimanche) on a Montmartre local that it exists any more (La Boh?me du
Tertre). 

I liked very much too your picture and it is quite difficult for me do an
objective rating beeing personnally involved, what I like is see so many
nice pictures of my friends, together.

Amicalement
Luis


-----Mensaje original-----
De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de
Philippe Amard
Enviado el: s?bado, 05 de enero de 2008 23:20
Para: Leica Users Group
Asunto: Re: [Leica] December 2007 LUG Photo Contest results

May I agree with you all?

Indeed, your points of view can be reconciled in a way, after all.

For me
http://contest.leica-users.org/main.php/v/0712/McfR-1_5.jpg.html
has a Diane Arbus tinge to it that made me like it at once, together with
http://contest.leica-users.org/main.php/v/0712/caregiver.jpg.html
I rate them both as wonderful documentary photographs IMHO.

I also liked
http://contest.leica-users.org/main.php/v/0712/91038-04A.jpg.html
for its atmosphere (good old times wrote Luis, rightly so)

and
http://contest.leica-users.org/main.php/v/0712/L1000362.jpg.html
for the intensity conveyed by these wonderful hands and the tweed cap

Just my pinch of salt.

thanks Steve for bringing out the comments issue on this so interesting
series.
and to you Brian for picking it up.
phx

 

G Hopkinson wrote:

>I am really surprised by these comments. That is a good lesson on how 
>our perceptions/impressions can differ. No doubt they will stimulate a
discussion. That can only be good.
>For me, while I understand Brian's comments on tone and the background 
>elements, I don't see it that way. It is an unmanipulated photograph of 
>a real situation. The light was there and the clutter was there. It makes a
moving scene for me. I don't at all see the woman as uncaring. Really,
though a very emotive and personal photograph.
>Regards
>Geoff
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Subject: Re: [Leica] December 2007 LUG Photo Contest results
>
>
>On Jan 5, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Brian Reid wrote:
>
>  
>
>>>Somehow though the nature of  "contest" dampens comment and 
>>>discussion of entries, both before and after results are announced.
>>>      
>>>
>>OK, I'll bite.
>>
>>About this picture, which took second prize:
>>
>>http://contest.leica-users.org/main.php/v/0712/McfR-1_5.jpg.html
>>
>>I find it to be muddy and diffuse. The subject matter is indeed 
>>compelling, but the photograph just doesn't grab me. The patient's 
>>skin tones are almost the same color as the wall behind him, and the 
>>clutter distracts me.
>>    
>>
>
>
>funny you mention it Brian...
>
>actually, this one doesn't grab me at all...
>
>compelling subject matter, yes...
>
>but the subjective response is everything...and for me goes beyond the skin
tones...
>
>I think that the technique is fine, but certainly secondary.
>
>an apology  to Bob in advance, but Caring ?....I don't think so...
>
>my wife and I looked at all the images together, in quite a bit of detail.
>
>Of course, we had our favorites and not so.....
>
>this one we unceremoniously subtitled...
>
>
>"hey Rex ...are you dead yet ?
>
>
>:-(
>
>Steve
>
>  
>
>>Some of the judges are subscribed to the LUG; some are not. If you are 
>>a judge and you are tempted to reply to my comment please take care 
>>not to reveal yourself.
>>
>>Brian Reid
>>
>>
>>
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