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Subject: [Leica] New topic - what makes "it" newsworthy?
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Fri Jan 11 17:54:24 2008
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Not answering to this particular message, but more to this thread:

My point of view, why I posted this, and why I gave it this title.

1) I may not be native English speaking, but I do think about the  
wordings I use.
I ?m Belgian, and the essence of that is a kind of 'intuitive western  
polyglotness': linguisticly we have Indogerman, but also Southern  
European influences, both very often combined with a classic  
education (intensive Latin and Greek). It's quite unique really. So  
we might have ridiculous jurisdiction, a laugheable government, an  
opportunistic nature, and whatever other city myth, but in languages  
we do excell. And in cuisine ofcourse ;-)
Anyways.

When I used the word 'reportage' I simply meant that, and nothing else.
Reportage = a report of a happening, big or small, with humans  
playing the main part in it. It can be written, told, imitated,  
photographed and filmed. For some it can also only be thought, but I  
do not adhere to that school.
This is what this is. A reportage. And a modern one, too. Pardon me  
the provocative interrogation mark of the MSG subject. It seems to  
have worked though, looking at the rate of RE's.

2) I posted it because it seems that some are asking themselves what  
the 'right track' might be today. And whether it should be  
commercially exploitable or not.
So I thought that this link could help a bit in clearing up this  
dilemma.

The right track is still the same track as it always has been: it's  
all about differentiation. Differentiation makes desirable. It's the  
flavor of the era.
Being different is very easy, though: just show others what your own  
particular world consists of.
Not the children, grandchildren, etc part of it. But the part of your  
life that you share with your peers. Whatever your and their age is.  
Whatever the 'newsworthiness', or the journalistic or documentary  
importance of it.
But striking it will be.

3) I'm looking forward to seeing the results of that evt. change in  
state of mind, because for me, that is the essence and intention of  
RF photography, and thus of Leica.
At least, that is what I think of it.

Ranting on, but vowing to keep silent for the next full year.
Because looking at the yearbook, I have a lot of catching up to do.
Have a good year.

Philippe



Op 12-jan-08, om 02:01 heeft Steve Barbour het volgende geschreven:

>
> On Jan 11, 2008, at 5:24 PM, Lottermoser George wrote:
>
>> On Jan 11, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>>
>>> what makes this story news?
>>
>> First, I don't believe I ever claimed the portfolio under  
>> discussion as "news."
>> While I did attribute some newsworthiness to the subject of drug  
>> cultivation, importation, use, addiction, etc.
>
> possibly I  misunderstand the real meaning of a thread called  
> "modern photoreportage ?"
>
> what exactly does that mean ?
>
> and if it doesn't mean current news reporting by photography, how  
> could this thread have been better labelled... ?
>
>> Yet, I'm attempting to depart from the specificity of Jessica's  
>> work and ask you, Steve, "what do you consider newsworthy  
>> photographic subjects?"
>
>
> something/anything  that's actually  news...as in new...
>
>>
>> < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_values> offers one group of  
>> criteria.
>> Do you agree with these criteria?
>>
>>> and what makes these photos reporting?
>>
>>
>> I don't really understand this question. The camera reports  
>> whatever it's pointed at when the exposure is made.
>
>
> technically sure George, but we are playing word games,  that  
> surely doesn't make it either news or worth reporting...
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Fond regards,
>> George
>> george@imagist.com
>> www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> Picture A Week - www.imagist.com/paw_07
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Replies: Reply from nathan at nathanfoto.com (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Re: Belgium (WAS: New topic - what makes "it" newsworthy?))
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