Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/01/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Steve I'll paddle my way dutifully across the Achereon and patiently await B.D. . He'll be bobbing up and down while swimming the Lethe. :-) > > hi Walt, > > If in fact, there is only one...ask Capa when you spot him and > Ingrid...other side of the river, why there is only one... > > > :-) > > Steve > >> >> >> Problem with this discussion; Folks take it as an insult to Capa. I >> see it as a sign of those particular times. Hell, General >> Westmoreland claimed the naplamed viet kids was faked. His opinion >> never garnered the vitriolic response a "falling soldier doubter" >> gets. :-) >> >> >> Steve Barbour wrote: >>> On Jan 26, 2008, at 5:37 PM, B. D. Colen wrote: >>> >>>> Walt, I love ya like a brother - and I think you're a great >>>> shooter. But until I see the negative of the dying soldier having a >>>> smoke after Capa shot him dying, I'll believe, based on all I've >>>> read and on the fact that Capa has no other image he's accused of >>>> faking, that it's real. >>>> Remember, this is the guy who admitted he 'cut and ran' on D-day; >>>> what other photographer was that honest? >>> >>> I really buy what BD is selling.... >>> >>> and I have always felt... >>> >>> ....that's not the way people fall when they are faking...that's the >>> way people fall when they are hit by something, and they are out of >>> control... >>> >>> (but if you weren't convinced before, you won't be convinced now...) >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Your Bud, >>>> B. D. >>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Walt Johnson <walt@waltjohnson.com> >>>> >>>> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:23:55 >>>> To:Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Capa or here we go again >>>> >>>> >>>> Ted >>>> >>>> I'd never say less than great things about Capa's images (all the >>>> others) and his undying and finally dying bravery. The "moment of >>>> death" >>>> seemed to be a situation which got out of control. Just supposed >>>> you'd >>>> been on assignment somewhere and send film back to N.Y. (or >>>> Montreal) on >>>> a plane. When your return you find fame and fortune waiting for you. >>>> Some editor had screwed the pooch and made you a star. Geez, I'd not >>>> trust myself to turn it down. :-) >>>> >>>> Honest in Florida >>>> >>>> Ted Grant wrote: >>>>> Walt offered: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> I'll bet I'll never believe in the "moment of death" image. I >>>>>>> don't care >>>>>>> >>>>> how many journalistic sycophants find proof 60 years after the >>>>> fact. :-)<<< >>>>> >>>>> Walt I agree with you having pretty well read everything written >>>>> about him >>>>> over the years it's one of those "creative war story moments" that >>>>> helped >>>>> make him the legend he's known as. And yes he earned it with his >>>>> undying >>>>> bravado. >>>>> >>>>> Not saying he didn't get into some crazy war scene situations but >>>>> the "just >>>>> as he was hit soldier" has created so many questions and various >>>>> versions of >>>>> when and how it was taken it's a tough call to believe it's the >>>>> absolute >>>>> truth. >>>>> >>>>> Hey it may well be the absolute moment of truth and good on him >>>>> for a great >>>>> photograph. >>>>> >>>>> Although I doubt we'll ever know the truth. >>>>> >>>>> ted >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org >>>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> Walt >>>>> Johnson >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 1:42 PM >>>>> To: Leica Users Group >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Capa or here we go again >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ted >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ted Grant wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> A very interesting discovery indeed. It will start a new series >>>>>> of Capa >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> books and magazine articles with never seen before material. And >>>>>> given >>>>>> >>>>> what >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I believe has been the best he's known for has been milked to >>>>>> death for 50 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> years, some new photos will be refreshing. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I bet die hard Capa fanatics will think this is like finding the >>>>>> Holy >>>>>> >>>>> Grail! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> :-) I suppose it's close considering his position in the photo >>>>>> world. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ted >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >