Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/03/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Yes Geoff! And this http://tinyurl.com/yuf2up typically exemplifies all the flaws you have to deal with, sometimes :-( Experiment and report Geoff, we want to know more over here, and see plenty of your nice photos. Amiti?s phx Geoff Hopkinson wrote: > Guys, the reasons to shoot RAW are well known. I guess that Jayanand > is saying that you haven't permanently changed your exposure > decision. That is you can vary the exposure in the conversion. That > is true, of course. But if you have completely clipped some > highlights, (all three channels) they are permanently gone, > irrespective of capture format. The factor that I want to manage > best is that the sensor uses up to half of all of the possible tonal > values to represent that first EV. So clearly, our original exposure > decision can affect the tonal range we capture. Yes there are other > factors, such as our sensitivity to brightness in the first place and > the camera's compression methods etc. In practical terms it does > sound like the permanent -EV may well be the best solution. Lots of > people think so! But effectively cutting our sensitivity permanently > is certainly a compromise. I am just interested in seeing just how > much tonal range I can extract in different light conditions. Hey > that sounds like trying to improve my technical skills along the way. > > Cheers > Geoff > > On 04/03/2008, at 1:27 AM, Steve Barbour wrote: > >> >> On Mar 3, 2008, at 8:14 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: >> >>> As far as I know, it is. >> >> >> >> I am somehow having trouble with this Jayanand... >> >> >> as this says that camera settings affecting the amount of light >> hitting the sensor, do not change the "negative"... >> >> >> but we all know that a true film negative is altered by these >> setttings. >> >> >> Since RAW is the digital negative, why is that not also affected ? >> >> Anyone ? >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >>> Cheers >>> Jayanand >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Steve Barbour <kididdoc@cox.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 3, 2008, at 3:11 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: >>>> >>>>> Geoff, >>>>> I have -2/3 dialed in on my Nikons all the time. I think it is a >>>>> digital >>>>> thing!! If you shoot RAW it shouldnt matter, though >>>> >>>> >>>> yes, >>>> >>>> is that an absolute fact though ? >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> - my advice is never >>>>> shoot jpg, always RAW. >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Jayanand >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Geoff Hopkinson >>>>> <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Alastair, it seems to be a consensus. I am not yet ready to >>>>>> surrender that all of that first EV all of the time. More practice >>>>>> required. Gee I wish it had the EV comp on an analog dial on top. I >>>>>> hate menus. I got a case for it with a flap that covers the >>>>>> display. >>>>>> Two advantages. No left eyed nose grease and stops me chimping too >>>>>> much.! Really I need to get used to the metering patterns and >>>>>> use the >>>>>> AE lock like on my M7. Don't need no stinkin' histogram when I'm >>>>>> shooting. >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Geoff >>>>>> On 03/03/2008, at 4:39 PM, <afirkin@afirkin.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Lovely: my only comment with the M8 is that overexposure can spell >>>>>>> death to a photo and if like me you don't chimp and check after >>>>>>> each image I'd set the exposure to -2/3 at least: I run on -1 ev >>>>>>> most of the time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- hoppyman@bigpond.net.au wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "G Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> >>>>>>> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> >>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: Casual Portrait with Summilux 50 asph >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:14:25 +1000 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Folks, My first steps learning to manage exposure with a new M. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is with the Summilux M 50 asph wide open. Now it has become a >>>>>>> short portrait 67mm or so! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/93634580> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/29trdn >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The subject is my beautiful daughter from the shadow side. Just a >>>>>>> quick casual shot obviously. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm completely biased of course, but I love this one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just look what the lens does on the 10MP sensor!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now to get better at the exposure control without throwing away >>>>>>> too >>>>>>> much at the highlight end. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, Geoff >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/a/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> best wishes, >>>> >>>> Steve Barbour >>>> >>>> "I never wanted to be famous" >>>> >>>> I just completed this book, and it will be out soon. >>>> >>>> kididdoc@cox.net >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> best, Steve Barbour >> "I never wanted to be famous" out soon. >> kididdoc@cox.net >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >