Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/03/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Richard: Thanks, this is what I expected. If you shoot a gray card or an evenly-lit blank wall, out of focus, and convert the image to grayscale, it's a little easier to interpret. I'm sure Photoshop has some sort of eyedropper tool that measures the pixel values--most editors do. Anyway, to clear up the questions others asked. . . If you shoot at several different f-stops, but adjust your shutter so all exposures are the same EV, then all pictures should be the same brightness. If I shoot a gray card at 1/60 @ f/2 and again at 1/125 @ f/1.4, the resulting pictures should look the same. And with my film OM-2 and 50/1.4 Zuiko, that's what happens. But put the same lens on the E-1, and the picture taken at f/1.4 is much darker. I found that I had to set the shutter 2/3 of a stop slower than the expected value in order to get the same grayscale value as the f/2 picture (the E-1 can adjust the shutter in 1/3 stop increments). f/2 and f/1.4 are one full stop apart. But on the E-1, when you open up from f/2 to f/1.4, the sensor doesn't get a full stop more light. It only gets 1/3 stop more. The sensor is somehow not receiving all the light that the lens is transmitting. I'm only detailing one test I did here. But the results were confirmed by some practical available light photography. So no, we're not talking about a lens that's only transmitting 1/3 stop more light when you open up the full stop from f/2 to f/1.4. With film, the lens performs as it should. But when that same lens is placed in front of a 4/3 sensor, something different happens. My guess is that some of the rays get cut off by the pixel wells. It must be a matter of angles, where the node is for this film lens vs. a digital-specific lens that is more telecentric. The Leica 25/1.4 Summilux does not have this problem. Somebody on dpreview tested it the other day, and it behaves as it should. What it boils down to is that if you want a lens that truly delivers f/1.4 on a 4/3 camera, you're not going to get it with an OM 50/1.4. You have to buy the Leica lens, or the Sigma 30/1.4. Or maybe another brand's "normal" f/1.4 lens --Peter At 07:15 PM 3/4/2008 -0800, Richard wrote: >Hi Peter, is there a way for Photoshop or something to give the >average EV value or whatever so I don't have to eyeball the results? >I ended up using something like >... >1/2500 @ F2.8 >1/5000 @ F2.0 >1/8000 @ F1.4 > >The shutter speed max out at 1/8000. So in theory, the F1.4 is >overexposure by 25%? Eyeballing the resulting RAW ORF files, the 1.4 >is actually darker, so it may support your theory that the difference >is less than the one stop. > >All the other files look similar, except that *may be* at F11, it is >brighter by a tad, but may be it's the cloud moving away :-) Not very >dramatic though. F16 is fine again. > >So not very scientific, but may support your thesis...