[Leica] Leica M8 Bargains

[afirkin at afirkin.com (Alastair Firkin)]

It was said "tongue in cheek". I was just having a bitch about the Johnny 
come lately b/w artists ;-)

--- hoppyman@bigpond.net.au wrote:

From: "Geoff Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>
To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica M8 Bargains
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:33:31 +1000

Alastair, doing it with an M8 will only mean that you are discarding image
information at capture (jpg processing for a start). To shoot BW scenics, I
think of Raw  as panchromatic capture to which you can then apply a
simulation of the particular BW emulsion effect that you desire. More than
that you can selectively use different effects according to your vision. In
short capturing all of the tone that you can and then having great control
of how you use that tonal information. I'm referring to more than just
de-saturating the images, of course. You may choose of course to use your BW
vision when composing your image. Naturally you can't use the same exposure
approach. Anyway this is my current passion to try to gain understanding and
competence. I need to get out in some scenery. Some of that is driven by
having no wet darkroom print skill and facilities and more by issues with
consistently developing clean bw negs and/or producing good scans from them.
Some of your (very valid) points are really most relevant to exhibition
criteria and analog vs. digital capture in general. Even then, there is a
gulf between an original transparency and a carefully constructed print from
that original, as you know. Actually that is the line, I think. Beyond that
is every possible variation in media and reproduction process. I am in awe
of people like you with the skills to produce great wet darkroom prints.
Also your dedication to shoot medium format BW film.
Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/

-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica M8 Bargains


It would keep you honest ;-) We went to the wildlife photographer of the
year exhibition recently. Helen had an image reach semi-final (what ever
that means). The images were spectacutlar, and this year they had a b/w
section. Now for years the competition has not had a b/w section, adn you
had to enter slides. B/w prints were not considered, now suddenly a b/w
section. The winners were fine, but they were all digital, and something in
me kept thinking they were an after thought: hey this new section may not
have many people entering and my pelican looks pretty cool in b/w lets
desaturate and enter it twice. Having lugged my blad to antarctica for b/w
images of wild places, seeing these made me squirm: OK rant over

Cheers
--- hoppyman@bigpond.net.au wrote:

Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica M8 Bargains
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:03:58 +1000

Frank, I'll be interested too in Tina or any user's response on that. To me
it doesn't make sense to capture in the BW setting. I guess it comes down to
RAW vs JPG suitability for your purpose though. Shooting the RAW of course
every BW option on conversion or post, is available without losing any
information at capture.
I think we also need a picture of Tina with two M8s for Steve's users'
gallery.
Cheers
Geoff

-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica M8 Bargains

One set for B+W and the other set for Color?  Or is that only the film folk
that set  the color of their cameras to their film type?

Frank Filippone
red735i@earthlink.net


So 
happy, that I've ordered a new chrome M8 to go with my black 
one.  




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