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Subject: [Leica] Noctilux DOF Film vs M8
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sun Apr 20 07:15:05 2008
References: <D66AF68A-F211-47AA-A589-492C18022D56@comcast.net>

On Apr 20, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Leonard Taupier wrote:

> This is a very interesting issue. I don't know if anybody has  
> mentioned what happens to the depth of field of the Noctilux, or any  
> other lens, in a Leica film camera versus the M8 digital camera. It  
> seems that nobody complains about the focus on a film body but all  
> kinds of complaints on the M8, especially the Noctilux, Summilux  
> Asph and the 75mm Summilux. Is there a difference? Yup, there sure  
> is. I tested 16 leica lenses for depth of field at a distance of 8  
> feet. I tested 13 of the lenses with film using a .85 MP and  
> compared the results to those taken with an M8 and a 1.25 Leica  
> magnifier.
>
> In every case the DOF shifts away from the camera with the M8. In  
> other words the lens appears to back focus. The worse lens for this  
> shift is the Noctilux. But even on a film camera it is barely in  
> focus. The typical back focus shift of any 50mm Leica lens is about  
> 4 to 5 inches at 8 feet with the M8. The backward shift of the  
> Noctilux is between 8 and 9 inches. This puts the focused point of  
> the rangefinder outside the depth of field of the lens. The other  
> thing I noticed is the DOF is better centered on the older LTM  
> lenses then on the newer lenses. I don't know if this is a quality  
> control problem now or if the focus point test has changed. I tested  
> 7 LTM lenses, the Xenon, Summarit, Summitar, Summicron Coll, 50  
> Elmar RS, 90 Elmar and 135 Hektor. The focus point nicely stayed  
> within the DOF on both cameras. Of the M lenses the best is the 1st  
> 50mm Summicron rigid version followed by the current 50mm Summicron.
>
> I verified my results with a second M8. The MP body is one year old  
> and purchased new. I also sent my Noctilux and 75mm Summilux to DAG  
> for focus adjustment even though the lens is still in warranty. I'm  
> also shooting more with film these days.

hi Len,

is it appropriate to send a Noctilux to DAG for focus adjustment,  
without the body...

does that work out OK?

I agree that with film (bodies) I did fine with the Noctilux wide  
open, with the M8 much less so...

Steve


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