Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/04/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Further musings on M8 focusing: The tolerances needed for everything to be exactly right on an M8 are tighter than with a film M. Film has depth. As long as the rays come to a focus somewhere within the emulsion, they will excite the most silver halide molecules at this point, and you have an in-focus image. Not so with the M8. Its sensor is a 2-dimensional plane as far as the image is concerned. You're either in focus or you're not. Now, suppose a lens focus shifts. Then the question becomes, "what exactly is correct focus, anyway?" At f/1.4, f/2 and f/8+? Or at the stops between? Or some compromise that makes it within acceptable limits most of the time? Because on the M8, you might have to choose. And to face a question most Leicaphiles don't want to ask: "How much error is acceptable?" We want perfection. With some lenses, we ain't gonna get it. My guess is that with film, Leica set up a standard that put most lenses in focus with most films, regardless of aperture. As a practical matter, focus shift was mostly taken care of in the tolerance given by the thickness of the emulsion. Maybe with film, we had a fudge factor of 3 gnat's eyebrows. Now it's got to be within half a gnat's eyebrow. Leica has provided some information about all this. See the LFI article that showed photos of wine bottles taken with the 35/1.4 ASPH at various apertures. As I've said before, on the M8 I can detect a bit of backwards focus shift on *all* my lenses of f/2 and faster. I've tested with tape measures at 1 and 2 meters, and cereal boxes on the roof of my car at 2-6 meters, and I always get the same basic result. I too have noticed that with the M8, at middle apertures especially, it's best to assume that most to all of the DOF is behind the point of focus, not distributed in the classic 1/3 front, 2/3 back configuration we knew with film. This may be why some people say that "all lenses back focus on the M8." Focus on the closest thing you absolutely must have in focus, and you'll be OK most of the time. The good news is that with many lenses, the error may not be photographically significant at sizes that most of us print at. I'd advise people to stop pixel peeping at 100% and assuming something is wrong. If the screen looks good at 50%, prints up to 11x14 probably will, too. The Noct is a special case. Its focus shift was already significant with film. It is even more significant with the M8. Since Noct owners bought the lens for f/1, I'd suggest using it at f/1, and if it works there, chalk the middle stops up to the universe and physics (or learn to the appropriate amount in front of what you really want). But if adjusting the camera to your Noct at f/1 puts your other lenses' focusing off, I'd suggest putting the RF back the way it was, and getting the Noct adjusted. The big unknown in all this: Has Leica has upgraded their equipment enough to adjust fast lenses to best advantage on the M8? From some leaks and rumors I've read, maybe they have in Solms. Have they done so in NJ? I don't know. There have been an awful lot of stories about people sending their lenses in, but they come back focusing no better, or worse. There have been too many of these stories from too many good photographers for me to attribute it all to photographer error. This is why I trust DAG more than Leica in terms of lens adjustment these days. --Peter