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Subject: [Leica] OT: Michael Collins, was Gun Photos
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Tue Dec 2 15:54:12 2008
References: <54146609.3450671227895311097.JavaMail.root@mail02.pantherlink.uwm.edu> <49347ABE.1080400@runbox.com> <a3f189160812011633i36b2111dx31745800890c90ef@mail.gmail.com> <20081202032955.285AB45900@barracuda.rutabaga.org> <a3f189160812020726o54cb0864s9ea7ecb9364d83f6@mail.gmail.com> <20081202164733.2EF3D47673@barracuda.rutabaga.org> <a3f189160812021411q798d87cdnb06b6cdc465aa8f9@mail.gmail.com> <20081202222803.8AED248C46@barracuda.rutabaga.org> <a3f189160812021511q24dc3ab1j1bc916ababe97fb0@mail.gmail.com> <20081202232434.CD12548EE9@barracuda.rutabaga.org>

Oh my. This is a just a f***ing list.  I read that stuff, and reported it
loosely.  I meant Glendalough house, and it may be a myth too.

http://www.irishgems.com/asp/property.asp?RecordID=166

 I don't have to cite, nor can I verify conversations and casual reading
that contributes to my empirical bar-room knowledge of a subject.  Besides,
Wikapedia, while a convenient resource is hardly the go-to database.

I wasn't confusing anything.

So you are out to win?  I give up. You are the winner. Collins only went
through the county next door by train, a frickin commuter.

The unfortunate thing is that guys who cut to the chase lose a little bit of
the romance.

btw Coogan is suspect too, one of the people who made  Mick Collins probably
the most fictionalized Irishman after St. Pat.  (Who wasn't Irish.)

Now where is my bottle of Redbreast?




On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Marc James Small 
<marcsmall@comcast.net>wrote:

> At 06:11 PM 12/2/2008, Sonny Carter wrote:
> >I stated the outset that it was perhaps fiction. I am no stranger to myth
> in
> >local history.  You do not recall, I work in an Archive?  I agree you said
> >Wicklow played no special role in  Collin's Career.  However, in multiple
> >places, I've read that he was often a guest at Glendalough, and other
> places
> >in the County.
> >
> >So why does it not follow that the legends might be true that he may have
> >visited Pubs, and even recruited from the area?
>
> Sources, please: "in multiple places I've read" is a hard citation to run
> down.  The Wikipedia article on Glendalough makes no reference to Collins'
> ever having visited the place, nor does Coogan in his biography.  I suspect
> you might be confusing Collins with Dev:  de Valera never passed up a 
> chance
> to visit any locale with a religious significance while Collins seems to
> have done his best to avoid such.  (Dev had to make a pretence of piety as
> he was so distrusted and disliked by the Irish Catholic church.)
>
> Glendalough does play a role, of course, in Rutherfurd's pastiche "history"
> of Ireland but, again, no mention of Collins ever being in Wicklow or
> Glendalough appears there.
>
>
> Marc
>
>
> msmall@aya.yale.edu
> Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!
>
>
>
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-- 
Regards,

Sonny
http://www.sonc.com
http://sonc.stumbleupon.com/
Natchitoches, Louisiana
USA

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