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Subject: [Leica] M-lenses on M8
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Wed Dec 10 14:42:11 2008
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Thnaks for this kind information Seth,

Saludos crdiales
Lluis


El 10/12/2008, a las 12:44, Seth Rosner escribi?:

> Luis, DR and Rigid Summicrons are optically identical, except for  
> the occasionally varying exact focal length of Rigids that have no  
> effect whatever on imagery
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lluis Ripoll" 
> <luisripoll@telefonica.net 
> >
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] M-lenses on M8
>
>
>> Thanks for showing Peter, great demonstration of the qualities, I  
>> hope
>> when I finallt?y decide go to M8's... my Summicron Rigid gave the  
>> same
>> quality, after what I read from Putts optically are the same.
>>
>> Saludos cordiales
>> Lluis
>>
>>
>> El 09/12/2008, a las 8:17, Peter Klein escribi?:
>>
>>> Seth:
>>>
>>> Great to see you here.  I can likewise vouch for the Rigid on the
>>> M8.  I have a DR, which as you know is the same lens.  After some
>>> hemming and hawing, I had DAG grind down the close-focus part of the
>>> cam so I could use it on the M8.  No regrets--it has the same "it"
>>> quality on the M8 that it did on film:  Smooth transitions, very
>>> nice fine detail, and a little bleed of bright highlights into
>>> adjacent dark areas that gave a little "glow" to the proceedings.
>>>
>>> On the M8, 50mm has a marked short telephoto quality, but I find
>>> myself using it fairly often. Here are a few DR/M8 shots:
>>>
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004685-w.jpg.html 
>>> >
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004642Crop-w.jpg.html
>>> >
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004637-w.jpg.html 
>>> >
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004636-w.jpg.html 
>>> >
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004621JimGreenGesture-w.jpg.html
>>> >
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004626Darkside-w.jpg.html
>>> >
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004596StretchBW-w.jpg.html
>>> >
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004603ChowShibaBW-w.jpg.html
>>> >
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004593TheaterBW-w.jpg.html
>>> >
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004594PinknBlue-w.jpg.html
>>> >
>>>
>>> And as with film, you'll usually want to keep bright light sources
>>> out of the frame  :-)
>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/pklein/album170/L1004610Crabby-w.jpg.html
>>> >
>>>
>>> I have a 90mm Elmarit, but on the M8 I've only shot test pictures of
>>> soup cans and cereal boxes with it to test focus.  They look about
>>> like what it looked like on film--a bit dreamy at f/2.8, nice
>>> portrait quality at f/4, and tack-sharp at f/8.
>>>
>>> From what I've heard, 90mm lenses are the most difficult to get
>>> right on the M8.  The M8's tighter tolerances are amplified by the
>>> relatively long focal length. My 90mm Elmarit's focus is
>>> significantly off on the M8. For outdoors, I have been using a CV
>>> 90/3.5 Lanthar that focuses perfectly.  On the M8, a 90 is more like
>>> a 135mm is with film.  It's great for distant scenics, but for 4-15
>>> feet away, you might find a 50 or a 75 more to your liking.
>>>
>>> I have no experience with the 35/2.8 Summaron.
>>>
>>> I believe you are, like me, a 50mm kind of guy with film, so you may
>>> find that you are a 35mm kind of guy with the M8.  If that's the
>>> case, you might want to pick up a non-aspheric 35mm Summicron. That
>>> might very well become your normal lens on the M8, if as Len says,
>>> the Summaron doesn't have quite enough contrast.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> --"Major General" Peter
>>>
>>> At 02:44 PM 12/8/2008 -0800, Leonard wrote:
>>>> You will love the 50/2 rigid Summicron on the M8. While it is lower
>>>> in contrast then the Summilux Asph for instance, I find it's very
>>>> smooth and detailed. Photos taken with it are wonderful. There  
>>>> are a
>>>> few on list that use it all the time.
>>>>
>>>> I can't speak of the 35/2.8 Summaron but I did test two very clean
>>>> 3.5 versions (LTM and M version with goggles) just yesterday. The  
>>>> M8
>>>> brutally shows their very low contrast. They can be made to look  
>>>> fair
>>>> by using the auto levels feature in Photoshop but without
>>>> manipulation I wouldn't use them.
>>>>
>>>> I have never used the other two lenses.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Len
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Seth Rosner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hello friends,
>>>> >
>>>> > What a coincidentally useful time to return LUG-wise! I'm finally
>>>> > considering an M8 or M8.2; would wish to use 35/2,8 Summaron,  
>>>> 50/2
>>>> > Rigid Summicron, 25/4 CV Skopar and 90,2,8 Elmarit (the 5-glass
>>>> > 1958 rendition). Any comments/opinions on good or bad imaging  
>>>> with
>>>> > any of these on an M8? Thanks.
>>>> >
>>>> > Best to all,
>>>> >
>>>> > Seth
>>>
>>>
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In reply to: Message from pklein at threshinc.com (Peter Klein) ([Leica] M-lenses on M8)
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