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Subject: [Leica] ZEISS BIOTAR 58/2 TEST --> To Marc J. Small
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Thu Dec 18 15:05:52 2008
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Yes Robert, but at least cosmetically the lens is quite different from  
the Tessar 2,8/50

Saludos cordiales
Lluis


El 18/12/2008, a las 1:22, Robert Meier escribi?:

> I know that lens!  it's the 50/2.8 Tessar I had on my first SLR, the  
> Praktica FX-3.   Semi-automatic, which meant I had to reopen the  
> diaphragm after each shot if I wanted to see through the lens at  
> f2.8.   It was a good, slow, but good, lens.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lluis Ripoll" 
> <luisripoll@telefonica.net 
> >
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] ZEISS BIOTAR 58/2 TEST --> To Marc J. Small
>
>
> Hi Marc,
>
> It is not a secret, the PENTACON is the model F, S/N 186012 the lens
> is marked JENA S/N 5505038. Here you can see the camera:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8395836
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8395835
>
> as you can see it is very good condition and I've liked very much have
> the opportunity to have this camera and this lens, my next test will
> be in color.
>
> About your statement I should say that I've read it somewhere on Photo
> Net I think..., the Max Berek is a very good one too.
>
> I'll be delighted to share and discuss experiences with other users,
> yes, the lens is the same for Praktica, I've read on the I. Matanle
> book that Praktica was the successor brand name of the Pentacon.
>
> Thanks for looking and your interesting historicall comments
>
> Saludos cordiales
> Lluis
>
>
> El 17/12/2008, a las 5:43, Marc James Small escribi?:
>
>> At 07:55 PM 12/16/2008, Lluis Ripoll wrote:
>> >I've got a new camera too, a Pentacon with a Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2,
>> >this is a nice lens, probably not si smooth as some Leica glasses  
>> but
>> >it has a nice rendition and transition from focus to non focus  
>> areas,
>> >as Dr.. Marc J. Small says "he never founded a bad Zeiss lens", I  
>> was
>> >quite influenced to try this once I've read his book, it is a cheap
>> >and amazing camera.
>>
>> Hmm.  Luis, could you be so kind as to send the model number of the  
>> Pentacon camera and its serial number, together with that of the   
>> lens? Private e-mail, if you prefer.  I will share this with  
>> others  but only in sanitized format with your name not included.   
>> There is  a very active Zeiss Ikon Collectors' Group and a Praktica  
>> Users'  Group where such cameras and lenses are actively discussed.
>>
>> All of the Praktica breed of cameras are grand picture-takers  
>> albeit  some are, I admit, a bit quirky.  And the 2/5.8cm Biotar,  
>> later the  2/58mm Biotar, is a most fascinating lens, having been  
>> calculated by  the mavens of Jena when they were first recognizing  
>> the impact that  coating would have on optical performance.  It  
>> first was designed in  1939, incidentally, as part of a project  
>> from the odd-ball Noble  owners of KW, and this also resulted in  
>> the M42 mount.  The lens  survives in production today in a Post- 
>> Soviet form used on Zenit  SLR's, made by the KMZ works nearby to  
>> Moscow.  A continuous  production for a photographic lens for  
>> almost seventy years mst set  some sort of a record.
>>
>> I would retract a flat statement that "I never met a Zeiss lens I   
>> didn't like", as I have met some which I found, well, not of the   
>> first water. Allow me to amend this statement to one which Max   
>> Berek would applaud, that I have never met a Zeiss lens not fully   
>> capable of great use. Almost all are cutting edge but, then, some   
>> of them pushed too hard, though they are still capable opticks.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>> msmall@aya.yale.edu
>> Cha robh b?s fir gun ghr?s fir!
>>
>>
>>
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