Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]>Does anyone in the group have experience with the Noblex cameras, in >particularly the model 150? While the 6 x 12 format yields a less >extreme aspect ratio (1:2 instead of 1:3) the curved platen and >revolving lens seem to make a wider angle of acceptance than the >617 cameras. I'm wondering about reliability, and about distortion. >Anyone have any thoughts on the subject? /David > I've had Noblex 150 cameras since they came out (my first one was ser. no. 6). I currently have a 150 with the slow speeds etc. I've had Widelux cameras since the 60's and have also had/used Horizon (Horizont) cameras, as well as many wide aspect 6x12 and 6x17 cameras and holders. I also use a Roundshot 28-220 which does rotational panos in 45 degree increments up to multiple rotations. The Noblex cameras have given me consistently excellent results; never any banding (as opposed to the Widelux), are easy to load and have truly outstanding lenses, although slow. There are a couple of operational quirks, but no serious ones. When you start a shot, the barrel holding the lens makes 1/2 a revolution before the exposure starts. This is great at 1/125 sec, as the camera is properly up to speed by the time the exposure starts, but not so good at 1 sec, as it takes the better part of a minute before the exposure starts. Fortunately, you can set it to 1/15 sec for the first part, and when the barrel gets close to starting the exposure, set it back to 1 sec. With the cameras that have no slow speeds, long exposures are still quite possible; just set it on multiple exposure and keep the shutter release cable pressed for additive exposure. If you need 1 sec, and all you have is 1/30, just let it rotate about 35 times (to compensate for latency effects and you're there. The cameras are very reliable. I've not had any problems, and haven't heard of any real problem from others. They use double A batteries, and the switch has to be turned off. Some early ones don't have a switch; you have to take the batteries out after you finish shooting as they drain within a couple of days. Distortion in rotating lens cameras is a bit of a strange concept as one type of distortion is built in but other types are intrinsically impossible. When you want very wide pictures, you get distortion. Which kind you want is up to you. A single shot instant camera can be made with a lens with essentially no linear distortion, such as the 35 Apo-Grandagon I use on my Cambo Wide with a 6x12 back, but since the angle of view is so huge, the corners will show the typical distortion of three-dimensional objects. Here, another lens with no so good correction might produce some barrel distortion, pincushion distoriton (unlikely) or complex distoriton if it's a retrofocus lens. If you want a very wide shot, you could use a fisheye lens, which has infinite barrel distortion. This gives you an extreme angle of view, but bowed lines away from the axis in any direction. The three-dimensional distortion from rectilinear lenses is gone, but all sorts of other distortions show up at the edges of the image. The rotating lens cameras will give you bowed lines off the horizon, can give you 360 degree views, but due to their basic concept cannot give you any linear distortion in the other dimension. So in answer to your question, the Noblex of course has zero distortion other than the one it's designed to produce. I've used the Noblex extensively in architectural/development work and also travelled with it; it's seen the high ridges of Annapurna. -- * Henning J. Wulff /|\ Wulff Photography & Design /###\ mailto:henningw@archiphoto.com |[ ]| http://www.archiphoto.com