Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/01/03
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]when i used to be a raptor field researcher, we were required to take our field notes with rapiodigraphs. we were working in the desert and i think i must have spent 1-2 hours a day trying to get that damn pen to unclog and flow freely. it made me appreciate a nice pen, even though the rapidiograph wasn't that great. since bought a waterman, lost it several pelikans (lost em) and a mont blanc; purchased in the singapore airport and later given to my attorney. now i use a mac. i found that no matter how nice the pen, my writing was unrecognizable even to myself. leo wesson photographer/videographer 817.733.9157 On Jan 3, 2009, at 12:35 PM, A. Lal wrote: > Jayanand, pricewise I am comparing like with like. > > Sailor Profits (1911s in the USA) with standard nibs are the pens I > am talking about, not the special edition nibs. You can buy these > with 14k nibs from Ujuku Pen Shop in Japan starting at under a > hundred dollars. The base Platinums, again with very smooth standard > nibs, are well under $ 200. Prices here in the USA are similar. > These prices are certainly in the Pelikan 400 - 600 range. The > Pelikan 800s, as I have mentioned earlier, seem to have better > writing characteristics than the 400 or 600s, IME. > > DuPonts have moved up-market in recent years and are now more > expensive. However, they used to be in the Pelikan 800 price range a > couple years ago. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jayanand Govindaraj" > <jayanand@gmail.com > > > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> > Sent: Saturday, 03 January, 2009 11:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Leica] And so it begins... > > >> Akhil, >> You are comparing pens costing $100-150 pens with those that start >> at $600+ >> - compare like to like. Pelikan M800 and M1000 have nibs which are >> the most >> reliable writers on earth, and the M800 surely must be the most >> used daily >> writer in the fountain pen world. >> Cheers >> Jayanand >> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 7:34 AM, A. Lal <alal@duke.poly.edu> wrote: >> >>> I have had some very poor experiences with Pelikan 400 and 600 >>> series nibs, >>> especially the F and EF widths and would not recommend them. Out >>> of over a >>> dozen nibs only 3 or 4 were really smooth. The 800s have been >>> better. All >>> my vintage Pelikan EFs and F s have been quite good. The best >>> writing >>> european modern pens I have used are the DuPonts -superbly made, >>> excellent >>> writers. >>> >>> Nothing matches a good a good modern Japanese nib in my >>> experience. My >>> Sailor EF and Platinum F nibs (don't have any modern Pilots, so >>> can't >>> comment) have been butter smooth straight out of the box, no >>> tweaking >>> needed. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jayanand Govindaraj" < >>> jayanand@gmail.com> >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> >>> Sent: Friday, 02 January, 2009 8:39 PM >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] And so it begins... >>> >>> >>> Wayne, >>>> >>>>> From a pen collector - the present quality of Montblanc is >>>>> rubbish - the >>>>> >>>> material used is so bad that it shatters on minor falls, and I >>>> have had >>>> one >>>> (gifted to me) that developed a crack while lying unused >>>> (replaced by them >>>> very grudgingly). I would not buy a Montblanc made after 1977, when >>>> Dunhill >>>> took them over, and they decided that they were exiting the pen >>>> business, >>>> and entering the luxury business. Sell the 149 and shift to: >>>> >>>> If you have the $$$ try Omas. But if you want best bang for the >>>> buck, try >>>> Pelikan, especially the M800. If you want exotic nibs, try the >>>> Japanese >>>> (they have a great history of calligraphy) - Pilot/Namiki, Sailor >>>> or >>>> Platinum. All modern nibs are relatively stiff - if you want >>>> flexible >>>> nibs, >>>> look for 1950s Montblanc and Pelikan. All fountain pens, of >>>> course. For >>>> ballpoints or roller balls, it really does not matter, they all >>>> write the >>>> same. >>>> Cheers >>>> Jayanand >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Wayne Serrano >>>> <wayneserrano@earthlink.net >>>> >wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey Mark, >>>>> >>>>> Moleskin, yes! have I got the perfect fountain pen for you. For >>>>> many >>>>> years >>>>> I have used a Montblanc Traveler fountain pen along with >>>>> Moleskins and >>>>> other >>>>> types of note books. Less than a year ago I acquired a new >>>>> Montblanc 149 >>>>> fountain pen because it felt so good to grasp but alas I can't >>>>> part with >>>>> my >>>>> Traveler so my 149 has never been inked and I have never offered >>>>> to let >>>>> it >>>>> go but.. if an interested party who remembers the joy of putting >>>>> pen and >>>>> ink >>>>> to paper was to come forward I would seriously consider parting >>>>> with it. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Wayne >>>>> ___________ >>>>> wayne@wayneserrano.com >>>>> http://www.wayneserrano.com >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> >From: Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com> >>>>> >Sent: Jan 2, 2009 2:25 PM >>>>> >To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>>>> >Subject: Re: [Leica] And so it begins... >>>>> > >>>>> >I just got a DAY AT A GLANCE soft cover flexible Moleskine. >>>>> >3.4 x 5.5 inch. (9 x 14 cm) >>>>> > >>>>> >Wishful thinking I know... >>>>> >That my time would get so cramped that I'd need a day at a >>>>> glance. >>>>> >That didn't work when I as at my busiest 10 years ago. >>>>> >For years in the 70's and 80's I used a week at a glace. >>>>> > 3 5/8" x 6 3/16" size probably >>>>> >http://www.dayrunner.com/ >>>>> > >>>>> >I tried bigger ones and smaller ones but one just slightly >>>>> bigger than >>>>> >my >>>>> >wallet worked the best over the years. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >But Moleskine is taking over. I get them at the Barnes and >>>>> Nobles. >>>>> >http://www.moleskineus.com/moleskine-2009-date-books.html >>>>> >They come in RED! >>>>> >But I got black believe it or not! >>>>> > >>>>> >I plan on filling each day with writing. With a fountain pen. >>>>> >And I wont have that really many appointments to crowd out the >>>>> diary >>>>> aspect >>>>> >of it. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >Moleskine 2009 Pocket Soft Cover Daily Planner (3.5 x 5.5 inches) >>>>> >a new page for each day >>>>> > >>>>> >Daily Calendar >>>>> >The Moleskine Pocket Soft Cover Daily Planner, the ideal place >>>>> to keep >>>>> >information and news for people on the move. A new page for >>>>> each day >for >>>>> >notes and appointments makes this the ideal daily planner. This >>>>> Soft >>>>> >Cover >>>>> >planner for 2009 is the same popular inside daily format as in >>>>> >previous >>>>> >years but with a nice soft pliable cover (please note the soft >>>>> cover >>>>> >planners do not include a removable address book). >>>>> >Pages: 380 pages (190 sheets) >>>>> >Size: 3.5 x 5.5 inches (9 x 14 cm) >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >Mark William Rabiner >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >> From: Alan Magayne-Roshak <amr3@uwm.edu> >>>>> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org> >>>>> >> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 09:56:41 -0600 (CST) >>>>> >> To: lug <lug@leica-users.org> >>>>> >> Subject: RE: [Leica] And so it begins... >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 "David Rodgers" >>>>> <drodgers@casefarms.com>wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> Everyone wonders how I survive without having a Blackberry, >>>>> yet >>>>> somehow I >>>>> >>> manage. >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> DaveR >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> = >>>>> ================================================================== >>>>> >> So do I. I carry a Month-At-A-Glance paper pocket calendar >>>>> that I >> >> >>>>> love. >>>>> No >>>>> >> batteries to worry about, >>>>> >> for one thing (as with my M3, M2 and IIIf). >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Alan >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer >>>>> >> UPAA POY 1978 >>>>> >> University Information Technology Services >>>>> >> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee >>>>> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >> Leica Users Group. >>>>> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >_______________________________________________ >>>>> >Leica Users Group. >>>>> >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information