Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/01/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The reaction to Cuba predates any Marxist carbuncle. While currently seeming irrational to Europeans, the attitude is firmly grounded in a long standing interventionist position, or point of view. Self determination, within a people who are perceived as a subject people, is usually seen as a disease which needs to be cauterized. The Caribbean has been a hot bed of self determination from the very beginning. With Haiti and Cuba leading the charge. When I was in the service, I remember Gen. Westmoreland being taken out of Viet Nam and given the Southern Command. I thought that at the time it was a demotion. But in spit of the Asian hot conflict, the Southern Command position was considered more important, hence a reward. Some time ago, I had the chance to hear a particular speech by Rev. James Lawson. It was at an MLK event. He said a sentence which I'll never forget, that the job of the US military in Latin America is to make sure no 14 year old ever grows up to become a Martin Luther King. That speech was made in the late 2000's. sd On Jan 4, 2009, at 3:00 AM, Bob W wrote: >> Some time ago, I became acquainted with a veteran from the Spanish >> Civil War. He was lucky enough to have been repatriated to >> the United >> States. That was before, and just barely, Petain had those interned >> on the French side of the border sent to the Mauthausen-Gusen camp. >> So while we were talking, I asked a question for which I could never >> get a straight answer. That was whether the Mexican >> contingent in the >> Republican forces were the largest group of foreign volunteers, as >> most historical presentation would have it. Without hesitation, he >> said the Cubans were. I stood there, somewhat transfixed for a >> moment, and said to him, now it makes sense. That is, the American >> reaction(s) to Cuba. >> sd > > I don't understand how this makes sense of the US attitude towards > Cuba, and > I'd be grateful if you could explain. > > I don't know a great deal about this, but I sutudied a bit of Spanish > history when I was learning Spanish at college, and some of my school > teachers were veterans of the civil war. Here is how I figure it - > please > correct me if I've got things wrong: > > The Spanish Civil War (73 years ago) was a long time before the Cuban > revolution (50 years and 3 days ago), and before the revolution > Cuba was a > banana republic client of the USA. Since the USA was neutral about the > Spanish Civil War it's likely that the Cuban government's position > would > also have been officially neutral, and Cubans who went to Spain > would have > been volunteers, even if unofficially helped by the government. > Given the > historical relationship between Spain and Cuba it would be entirely > understandable for many Cubans to wish to be involved in the civil > war on > one side or the other, but they would, officially at least, have been > volunteers who went under their own steam. > > The current attitude of the US towards Cuba arises from the time of > the > Cuban revolution and the relationship between Cuba and the then Soviet > Union. The Cuban revolution did so a great deal of damage to US > interests > over there; Cuba, with Soviet backing, tried to export the > revolution to > other parts of Central and South America, and Cuba became a potential > bridgehead for the Soviets into the US, so the USA took a hard line > about > relationships with Cuba. > > Since the collapse of the Soviet Union the hard line is continued not > because of any real threat to the US from Cuba, but because of > continued > vested political interests. > > I'd be interested to find out why you think the Spanish Civil War has > anything to do with the US attitude to Cuba. > > Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information