Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/01/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Negative Phillipe! M's and R's simply serve different purposes. Reminds me of an aphorism in a little book entitled (puleeze, Libbers, don't jump me; I was a women's libber 40+ years ago - my ma taught me) "Life with Women and How to Survive It". Its author, one Dr. Joseph Peck, was a general practice physician in a small county seat town in the middle of the Iowa plains who had delivered I don't know how many thousands of the county's babies etc etc; he wrote: "women aren't superior to men, neither are they inferior; they simply belong to a different race". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philippe AMARD" <philippe.amard@tele2.fr> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: 60 Macro-Elmarit > LoL > > Are you suggesting that M users are frustrated R users? > If so, Geoff is right , I must need an M8, and get double frustration ;-) > > Does anyone on the list, apart from Marc, know of a good psycho-analyst? > > Bien amicalement > Phx - Macro-Elmarit user on a rebadged Digilux 3 > http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/88906-3/wing-technology.jpg > > > > Seth Rosner wrote: > >> Eh bien, mon cher ami Philippe, many quite incredible 'buys' today >> with the shift from film. One might have thought that for reflex >> photography which, other than wildlife and sports, is almost by >> definition a more contemplative manner of image-making, people might >> have stayed longer with film. Apparently not. Actually, I like what >> Erwin calls the 'fingerprint' of this lens so much that I had a >> fantasy dream that Leica took its optics and put them in an M8.2 mount! >> >> Seth >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philippe AMARD" >> <philippe.amard@tele2.fr> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> >> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 10:46 AM >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: 60 Macro-Elmarit >> >> >>> >>> >>> Seth Rosner wrote: >>> >>>> Doug wrote: >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <wildlightphoto@earthlink.net> >>>> To: <sethrosner@nycap.rr.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 8:46 PM >>>> Subject: Re: 60 Macro >>>> >>>> >>>>>> An amazing lens that remained in the Leitz/Leica catalog from >>>>>> 1972 until a year ago. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's no longer in the catalog ?!?? It's time to either fly the flag >>>>> at half-mast or watch for a new 50mm APO-Macro-Summicron-R. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Doug >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think I'm right about the 60 Macro-Elmarit being gone, Doug. OTOH, >>>> there are a ton of these lenses appearing on eB** at very reasonable >>>> prices; can't quite figure out why. >>> >>> >>> What if it was for the lack of an R9.2 Diesel to go with it? >>> >>>> >>>> Of course I could be wrong, but if Leica brings out another 'normal' >>>> focal-length macro-lens, I'd be a bit surprised if it were designated >>>> APO. 30 years ago I was in correspondence with Geoffrey Crawley, then >>>> Editor-in-chief of the British Journal of Photography, about lens >>>> design and performance. A propos the 50 Summicrons and Switars, he >>>> wrote me that while Kern (Alpa) "have always made a bit of a fuss >>>> about being Apo's" in his opinion, all modern normal focal-length >>>> lenses from the top manufacturers were of apochromatic design. OTOH, I >>>> would be quite surprised if such a new Leica Macro-R lens were not >>>> aspheric. My issue with some current ASPH lenses - and please don't >>>> jump on me, gals and guys, it's an impression - is that they are of >>>> such high contrast that they not only sacrifice resolution to some >>>> extent, they provide a somewhat hard, edgy image, some would say >>>> harsh, that departs from the plasticity of the images made by Leitz >>>> lenses from the mid-1950s to 1970s. That may be very desirable for >>>> reportage photography but for other photographic purposes it departs >>>> from the imagery I prefer. I ought to add that the reputation of those >>>> earlier Leitz lenses for flare and only medium contrast is seriously >>>> overdone. Stop them down two stops and their contrast is excellent >>>> across the frame, comparing very favorably with all of the later >>>> 'high-contrast' Leica lenses, though not the latest ASPH renditions. >>>> >>>> Seth >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1873 - Release Date: >> 1/3/2009 2:14 PM >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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